Spotify to launch 'Hi-Fi' CD Quality Tier.

[Miguelón]

That's not how it works for me, and -again- it's a common complaint in the Spotify discussion forums. Example:

I add one album (George Benson "Guitar Man") to the queue, in shuffle mode:

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Then add another ("In Flight"):
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Voila! Shuffle mode defeated even though it's supposed to be there... it's worse with playlists.

But I see two albums in the queue, Guitar man and In Flight, the order is not correct?

Oups, now I understand: they are in the queue but the player defeat one of them…

 

[pablolie]

But I see two albums in the queue, Guitar man and In Flight, the order is not correct?

Oups, now I understand: they are in the queue but the player defeat one of them…

Yes, shuffle is defeated... :-( There are so many weird little things like that, and some actually are not consistent. Oh well, we live with it. :-(

 

[Miguelón]

Yes, shuffle is defeated... :-( There are so many weird little things like that, and some actually are not consistent. Oh well, we live with it. :-(

When I started to use Spotify many years ago, I worked in a small village that has no internet access except for some public networks (school, auditorium, town hall…).

So I should go with my ipod close to the auditorium and wait for a couple of hours in the outside to download music in the off-line mode, to listen at home.

It was a relatively new function on the app, and without any apparent cause, the content of the downloaded playlists disappeared of the ipod and should went again to the public wifi.

I should be quite selective of what I wanted to listen the rest of the week

 

[PristineSound]

Guys - It "could" happen later this year! We truly live in exciting times.

Spotify could offer its long-awaited HiFi audio tier as a $6 add-on later this year

Spotify is rolling out a Music Pro tier later this year that will give users access to higher-quality audio and remixing tools, according to Bloomberg. But the long-awaited option was announced way back in 2021, and its release schedule could still change.

www.engadget.com

Absolutely the best playlist and recommendation engine in the business. Qobuz and Tidal does even come close.

If this comes out end of this year, I will be extremely happy, except if they add ASIO support to their Windows app, then it will be Nirvana.

 

[Tell]

Absolutely the best playlist and recommendation engine in the business. Qobuz and Tidal does even come close.

If this comes out end of this year, I will be extremely happy, except if they add ASIO support to their Windows app, then it will be Nirvana.

Why though? You loose the ability to use Equalizer APO with no real audible benefits.

 

[PristineSound]

I don't think this will help Qobuz much, their recommendation and playlist engine is non-existent.

I Tried Qobuz Connect on My Hi-Fi System — Here’s Why I Might Never Go Back to Spotify - HomeTheaterReview

When Qobuz Connect finally rolled out, I had to see if it could live up to the hype, so I tested it on my Denon, Marantz, and WiiM gear.

hometheaterreview.com

 

[PristineSound]

Why though? You loose the ability to use Equalizer APO with no real audible benefits.

Truth, but one can also say, most can't tell the difference between High Res and MP3 without a back to back AB.

You still can EQ on ASIO, foobar allows this.

 

[kyuu]

I don't think this will help Qobuz much, their recommendation and playlist engine is non-existent.

I Tried Qobuz Connect on My Hi-Fi System — Here’s Why I Might Never Go Back to Spotify - HomeTheaterReview

When Qobuz Connect finally rolled out, I had to see if it could live up to the hype, so I tested it on my Denon, Marantz, and WiiM gear.

hometheaterreview.com

Spotify is indeed the best in business for those things, but not everyone cares about those features. I certainly don't. I use Tidal because I'm interested in playing the music I want to play, not having some algorithm constantly feeding me recommendations.

 

[PristineSound]

Spotify is indeed the best in business for those things, but not everyone cares about those features. I certainly don't. I use Tidal because I'm interested in playing the music I want to play, not having some algorithm constantly feeding me recommendations.

If you have a set of music you like and not interested in discovering music, then Tidal or Qobuz is great.

But if you like to discover new music or new to your music, like I do, Spotify does the job. I music pallet has expanded significantly since I switch from Qobuz to Spotify.

 

[kyuu]

music pallet

One of these?

 

[obsessive9119]

I have better ways of discovering music than Spotify - talking to people with similar taste. And unlike Spotify, they don’t try to push podcasts and film clips onto me all the time.

 

[PristineSound]

I have better ways of discovering music than Spotify - talking to people with similar taste. And unlike Spotify, they don’t try to push podcasts and film clips onto me all the time.

I music pallet has expanded significantly since I switch from Qobuz to Spotify. <- My music palette

Typo, but definitely funny catch

 

[kemmler3D]

I came from Google Play Music (now YT Music) and the recommendation engine there was much better than Spotify. Spotify has pigeon-holed me and now all it recommends is jazz fusion and the occasional UK garage track. I do like to listen to those from time to time, but its recommendations tend to be oddly narrow. I just never feel like it's on the money, where GPM seemed to strike a good balance between new and familiar.

What bugs me the most is in any playlist of a genre I've listened to before, it seems to avoid adding new songs to the furthest extent possible. If I've liked a song by a given artist, it seems like I can be pretty sure to hear that song in every relevant playlist, but ONLY that song. Forever.

TL;DR I don't like Spotify's recommendations and aside from their terrible ethics in relation to musicians, it's one of the reasons I'm planning to switch to Tidal one of these days.

 

[masterhw]

I came from Google Play Music (now YT Music) and the recommendation engine there was much better than Spotify. Spotify has pigeon-holed me and now all it recommends is jazz fusion and the occasional UK garage track. I do like to listen to those from time to time, but its recommendations tend to be oddly narrow. I just never feel like it's on the money, where GPM seemed to strike a good balance between new and familiar.

What bugs me the most is in any playlist of a genre I've listened to before, it seems to avoid adding new songs to the furthest extent possible. If I've liked a song by a given artist, it seems like I can be pretty sure to hear that song in every relevant playlist, but ONLY that song. Forever.

TL;DR I don't like Spotify's recommendations and aside from their terrible ethics in relation to musicians, it's one of the reasons I'm planning to switch to Tidal one of these days.

I agree, I consistently discovered some great music on Spotify a couple years ago but as someone that frequents pop, 12-18 months ago they started doing Payola and I was always getting the same couple songs pushed on me. I went down the Tidal rabbit hole but burned out in less than a year, when it worked it was great but their integrations were consistently buggy for me. Also one of the reasons I switched was interest in using Atmos format, and it drove me crazy how different songs on the same album could be mastered to wildly different volume levels. Think the neighbours heard me on more than one occasion due to that.

I've ended up on Apple Music, which has its own challenges to play on hi-fi systems in lossless. But if you're able to make it work they seem to be the only platform with actual mastering standards and I've found some releases with better masters than are available on Tidal. at the very least AM seems to try the hardest, which is an upgrade from wondering most days if the Tidal developers actually used their own service.

Airplay is clear as mud to figure out, but using network activity I was able to confirm the Windows Apple Music app can cast to my Denon receiver in lossless ALAC (either 16/44.1 or 24/48). good enough for me. There was a time Spotify could have kept my business but now I don't see myself ever going back.

 

[Sal1950]

Spotify is indeed the best in business for those things, but not everyone cares about those features. I certainly don't. I use Tidal because I'm interested in playing the music I want to play, not having some algorithm constantly feeding me recommendations.

Yep, I don't need some statistical analysis streamer app to tell me what to listen to.
I ran Spotify for a bunch of years but when others offered lossless for even less money, and then Apple brought a huge Atmos and multich catalog to market it was "bye - bye Spotify"

 

[Brian Hall]

A big point (for me) is that Spotify has a good native Linux client and Spotify Connect works well with almost everything. I do like the music discovery feature on Spotify and Youtube Music. I have found a lot of new groups I like from both. I've liked / added enough on both to let their algorithms know what I like.

 

[Pearljam5000]

If they add lossless and AI Playlists
It's game over

 

[kemmler3D]

Question for the group here - if I don't care about lossless in this context, which service other than Spotify works best with WiiM?

 

[obsessive9119]

Question for the group here - if I don't care about lossless in this context, which service works best with WiiM?

Spotify works quite well via Spotify Connect, though I did have occasional track skipping g issues.

The WiiM app’s qobuz implementation is quite good, and Qobuz Connect also seem to work well now too.

Apple Music is a no-go, unless you get one of the older WiiMs with airplay.

I haven’t personally tried any other services, but WiiM seems to have built-in support for a lot of them.

 

[kemmler3D]

Spotify works quite well via Spotify Connect, though I did have occasional track skipping g issues.

The WiiM app’s qobuz implementation is quite good, and Qobuz Connect also seem to work well now too.

Apple Music is a no-go, unless you get one of the older WiiMs with airplay.

I haven’t personally tried any other services, but WiiM seems to have built-in support for a lot of them.

Thanks and I just realized I didn't specify that I was trying to get away from Spotify. To their credit it plays very well with most devices I've used.