3m from each sidewall? I wish I had the space in my living room.
LOL right, me too. If I had that distance from each sidewall, it would save me a lot of money I spent on creating the room treatments.3m from each sidewall? I wish I had the space in my living room.
Any speaker can be improved with EQ because no room is like the other. The messages doesn't seem to have reached the outskirts of audio landHardly. That might be right for studio monitors but for home hifi these companies are in the business of selling speakers that customers expect to sound right connected to anything from their vintage receiver to a minimalist integrated amp to modern room compensating systems.
Unless DSP is built into the speaker, manufacturers are giving their guidance based on the lowest common denominator.
And this is what we get from Revel:Yeah, that's quite something. That's the Reference series manual, right? I guess they reckon Reference owners have that sort of room.
For the plebs, R series says "0.5m (20") MIN" to side and "225mm (9") MIN" to back.
LS50 Meta is recommended to be ">1000mm" to side, ">500mm" to back.
That point I completely agree with. My dispute was that speaker manufacturers expect their speakers to be used with EQ, when I believe in most cases they’re notAny speaker can be improved with EQ because no room is like the other. The messages doesn't seem to have reached the outskirts of audio land
Amen
Don't the absorbers have to be very thick to absorb low frequencies significantly?When placing loudspeakers close to the front wall I usually use also broadband absorbers in between to improve the imaging.
Porous absorbers need to be placed where air velocity is high so if you're close to the source (or the listener) it's easier to "catch" energy. I'm not aware that much research has been done in that area but think it could result in highly effective solutions which aren't necessarily obtrusive. Or maybe the opposite is the case and some kind of absorptive "bun" around the speaker would be desirable?Don't the absorbers have to be very thick to absorb low frequencies significantly?
But that’s not due to improved acoustics, just the mind playing tricks. If there are valid reasons speakers should be pulled out from the wall I would be interested to learn more though.
The low frequencies are not really relevant to imaging. Also by placing the loudspeakers close to the front wall you move the corresponding SBIR higher in frequency where wider baffle loudpeakers start already some beaming and usual absorbers also start being active.Don't the absorbers have to be very thick to absorb low frequencies significantly?
This is a good topic, as I’ve been moving my front speakers around and measuring. I was at about 2 ft side and back, which seems to not be optimal from what I just learned.
How accurate is the room simulator in REW?
Much easier to move speakers around virtually