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Speaker "Speed"

Hoe much mass is the air moving with the membrane of an electrostat?
What happens with the air when pushed/pulled through the holes in the front and rear plates?
How are resonances in thesr plates and in the membrane delt with( they do resonate!)
Just envision all this.
 

Attached paper in another thread on the same issue.
 
Matt: With respect, you haven't asked a question.

My bad! Seeking opinion is different! Chiding happily accepted.
 
Cone speakers have to overcome inertia (says obvious man) so need to be tightly controlled in their back and forth movement. That said, it seems to me that the lightest, stiffest
cone materials should be used

As mentioned, the inertia problem can be compensated by proper motor, force and control (with the exception of true resonators like port vents), I would consider it as debunked when it comes to explanation why some speakers are described as ´fast´. Many speakers which are described as ´fast, precise´, employ pretty heavy diaphragms, particularly in the bass region (closed-box designs, dipoles, fullrange horns).

If you say the stiffest cone material should be used, this is an obvious contradiction to claims that planar transducers are superior. They - particularly electrostatic planers - are anything but stiff, and both force and control relative to the diaphragm area are inherently poor (hence the resonance issues with many models).

Having heard a legion of statements which different types of loudspeakers are described as ´fast, precise in timing´, I could offer a different explanation. I would suspect the reason for this mainly in the bass region and lower midrange, particularly the audible decay of resonances and reverb. In contrary, some loudspeakers causing audible booming, long resonances and midrange-heavy reverb in the room, are regularly described as ´slow, incoherent in timing´. Many of them can pretty much reverse this character the moment you listen to them under free-field conditions.

If my hypothesis is correct, it would mean that not the transient behavior is responsible, but the interaction with the room and the resulting decay. That might explain why dipoles, fullrange horns, cardioids, line sources, planar electrostatic, planar magnetostats and many more are equally described as ´fast´, as their radiation pattern helps preventing room problems in the lower frequency bands.
 
That might explain why dipoles, fullrange horns, cardioids, line sources, planar electrostatic, planar magnetostats and many more are equally described as ´fast´, as their radiation pattern helps preventing room problems in the lower frequency bands.
Are they?
I mean, is it that simple that all of these concepts are always "fast"? Or does it depend on many (other) things (too)?

EDIT: What range do you mean when saying "midrange-heavy reverb"? Following the classification of REW "mids" cover the range from 250Hz to 4000Hz.
 
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is it that simple that all of these concepts are always "fast"?

Not sure if they are always described as ´fast´, it is just a hypothesis. Is there any example of such speaker being regularly described as ´slow´?

Other things might come into play as well. Anecdotally, speakers which tend to produce a rather diffuse or distant imaging or show audible compression, are also described as ´slow´ when it comes to impulse reproduction.

I would be interested what people claiming to prefer planar speakers like electrostatic, for being ´fast´, are thinking of cardioids. I would regard most of these as an antithesis to the (debunked) claims about low mass and fast transient behavior, yet they are regularly described as fast and particularly transparent in the midrange.

What range do you mean when saying "midrange-heavy reverb"?

I was referring to lower mids, sorry for the confusion. In most of cases this is a phenomenon of frequency bands in which conventional, not overly broad, speakers are showing directivity tending towards omnidirectional, and in which typical surfaces in a room are increasingly reflective towards lower frequencies. Below 500Hz typically, I would say.
 
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