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Speaker Cabinet Finishing

Okay, fresh question.

Many members suggest Tung oil as a finish.

Why not Boiled Linseed/linseed, Danish, Teak oils? Why Tung specifically?
 
I just use shellac because I know how to make it look nice. I sand to 1000, apply shellac with a stain pad, sand between coats, then just buff with steel wool. Can go from unfinished cabinet to several coats applied, sanded, buffed and ready to go in a day. Hate all the water based polys I tried. Don't care for how long oil poly smells and dry/cure time. When I apply shellac I can just do it in a room with a window open, pretty low VOC compared to a lot of stuff. Haven't tried a french polish or lacquers.

Shellac does go on thin though so might not be up your alley.

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Purchased a pound of shellac flakes. Im waiting on the arrival of denatured alcohol.
 
Purchased a pound of shellac flakes. Im waiting on the arrival of denatured alcohol.
Damn, amazing the things you can learn on a Hi-Fi website.
I searched shellac flakes and learned shellac isn't just a wood finish you buy ready to use in a can but can be
custom made with different types of shellac flakes dissolved in alcohol or other things for custom finishes.
Learning, Learning, Learning,
 
Okay, fresh question.

Many members suggest Tung oil as a finish.

Why not Boiled Linseed/linseed, Danish, Teak oils? Why Tung specifically?

Why not boiled linseed oil: because it darkens over time. I am a member of some wooden ship model forums and discussion on finishes is common. Very few people use boiled linseed oil for this reason, because darkening of wood on ship models is not something you want. It might be OK for furniture.

Also, Tung oil is known to be food safe. So you can use it for chopping boards, cheese platters, etc. I don't think Linseed oil can be used for that, but I may be wrong.

I have no experience with those other types of oil.
 
Damn, amazing the things you can learn on a Hi-Fi website.
I searched shellac flakes and learned shellac isn't just a wood finish you buy ready to use in a can but can be
custom made with different types of shellac flakes dissolved in alcohol or other things for custom finishes.
Learning, Learning, Learning,
from the "lac bug"

Shellac is pretty cool stuff.
 
Why not Boiled Linseed/linseed, Danish, Teak oils? Why Tung specifically?
A very popular finish on a few other DIY speaker forums is 1/3 boiled Linseed oil, 1/3 mineral spirits, and 1/3 oil based polyurethane (sheen of your choice). Wipe/brush it on, wait an hour and wipe off the excess. Let it dry and repeat as desired. Google what"Danish oil" is, and this is pretty much the DIY version.
 
A very popular finish on a few other DIY speaker forums is 1/3 boiled Linseed oil, 1/3 mineral spirits, and 1/3 oil based polyurethane (sheen of your choice). Wipe/brush it on, wait an hour and wipe off the excess. Let it dry and repeat as desired. Google what"Danish oil" is, and this is pretty much the DIY version.
Polyurethane? Really? Seems kind of inauthentic(?). It's a relatively modern synthetic polymer (patented in 1937 per google's AI :p). Danish Modern oil, I suppose?
;)
 
Polyurethane? Really? Seems kind of inauthentic(?). It's a relatively modern synthetic polymer (patented in 1937 per google's AI :p). Danish Modern oil, I suppose?
;)

Polyurethane has its pros and cons, too. It's easy to apply, and does not require multiple coats. It cures fairly quickly. The curing reaction is not exothermic, like Tung Oil (do not discard Tung oil soaked rags into anything flammable, e.g. paper or woodchips - it can spontaneously ignite!). It lasts almost forever, especially if it is used indoors. It seals the pores, so the wood is water and stain resistant - so it is a great choice for table and counter tops. BUT ... it gives wood a plasticky finish which I dislike, and reapplication requires that you sand off the previous layer, which is a pain. I never use it, not even for indoor furniture. I prefer periodic reapplications of Tung oil and taking care not to spill wine/coffee on wood. If it happens, I wipe it off immediately.
 
Polyurethane? Really? Seems kind of inauthentic(?). It's a relatively modern synthetic polymer (patented in 1937 per google's AI :p). Danish Modern oil, I suppose?
;)

Did you know that Watco Tung oil, along with actually being 20% Tung oil, is full of solvents and carcinogens?
 
Okay, fresh question.

Many members suggest Tung oil as a finish.

Why not Boiled Linseed/linseed, Danish, Teak oils? Why Tung specifically?
In addition to other comments, IIRC boiled linseed can also have a very long cure time. Like days, weeks.
 
In addition to other comments, IIRC boiled linseed can also have a very long cure time. Like days, weeks.
My first DIY speaker was done in Tung oil. It really was nice how the grain "popped"...but it had a 15 to 30 day cure time.
Pure boiled linseed oil says 30 to 45 days full cure.
 
Speaking of finishes ...

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Time for some outdoor furniture maintenance. I will be applying 3 coats of Eucalyptus Oil. It is NOT food safe. It's great for outdoor furniture because it resists insects. But it needs periodic re-application. I haven't done this for 3 years, the wood was so thirsty that it drank up the oil. You can see the opposite corner is almost dry in the time it took for me to get to that spot.
 
I see a lot of discussion over various resins now so I thought I'd chime in again.

First, Tung oil and linseed oil are similar, but it's very important to note that when we are suggesting using these finishes, we are always suggesting using POLYMERIZED Tung oil, and BOILED Linseed oil. Even if we don't state it each time, it has to be polymerized / boiled. Do NOT use 100% pure, raw Tung oil, or you're looking at a drying time on the order of 45 days, same with raw linseed oil. And yes, as others have said, the difference between them is that Tung oil does not yellow as much over time.

Second, please be aware that there's almost no brand of Tung oil out there that is actually selling Tung oil. They're almost ALWAYS thinned, and mixed with other resins. The Watco Tung oil Finish is actually a Tung-oil and alkyd resin blend, per its own TDS. Its NOT pure Tung oil. It's closer to an old-school varnish than a true Tung oil finish. They no longer make their pure Tung oil product. The ONLY 100% pure, polymerized Tung oil I've been able to find at a big retailer is Lee Valley's Polymerized Tung Oil.

Danish oil is a blend of Tung oil, linseed oil, and a variety of resins, like Rosin (derived from pine trees). It forms a much thicker film than tung or linseed oil, and is more like a "varnish" of old.

Then you have actual "varnishes", which I put in quotations because there's no formal definition of varnish, but essentially its any resin, dissolved in a solvent. Typically, though, we use varnish to denote products whose resins are naturally-derived, as opposed to synthetic, but this is not a guarantee.

Then there's shellac, aka dissolved bug poop flakes. It's an extremely brittle and delicate finish, not suitable for real protection, but it has the ability to bond to damn near anything, and is often used as an intercoat for that reason. It also is used to produce a French polish finish.

To cover something in shellac, which is made of Lac, was called "lacquering".

In modern parlance, athough, lacquer is only actually lacquer if it's based around nitrocellulose. It dries super hard, super fast, and is super shiny. There are many products being advertised as lacquer which are not, and are simply being advertised that way to promote how they also dry fast and shiny and hard. They're usually acrylic clearcoats.

Then there's acrylic products, usually just referred to as acrylic enamels. They are based primarily around acrylic resin.

Then there's urethanes. Spar Urethane for the outdoors, poly urethane for indoors. It's based around Cabamate as its resin, and there's no coating out there that's tougher, or more abrasion resistant than Urethane. Many people find they look plasticky, but those are only the cheap ones, or if they're applied incorrectly. A high-quality poly is crystal clear, and can even be used to do a pseudo French polish.
 
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