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Sparkos SS3602 Opamp Rolling In Fosi P4

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You can lead a horse to water....
 
Listening now on my other system, I feel like the sound has softer edges and it's very nice. These op amps are staying in my Fosi P4's and I don't see any reason to try Burson V7's or anything else. The MUSE02 has a higher bandwidth, 11MHz vs 10MHz for the Sparkos SS3602.
I'm working on op-amp comparisons and have been meaning to try Sparkos SS3502 against Burson V7 vivids and classics, as well as others from Ali. Lemme know if you wanna sell your SS3602 pair :cool:
 
Well, my perception changes from day to day. I had to put the Sparkos SS3602 back in both units because the MUSE02 started to feel congested. I am trying the slow linear phase filter on my DAC to try to make the sound less fatiguing, and may try different interconnects, although these things make a subtle difference at best. I still think the SS3602 is the better op-amp though, because it least it doesn't hold anything back in terms of detail.
 
Well, my perception changes from day to day. I had to put the Sparkos SS3602 back in both units because the MUSE02 started to feel congested. I am trying the slow linear phase filter on my DAC to try to make the sound less fatiguing, and may try different interconnects, although these things make a subtle difference at best. I still think the SS3602 is the better op-amp though, because it least it doesn't hold anything back in terms of detail.
Honestly, that just sounds exhausting. Put everything back to stock, leave it alone and just play music - that's the point, isn't it?
 
Honestly, that just sounds exhausting. Put everything back to stock, leave it alone and just play music - that's the point, isn't it?
Hmm... I don't know even know where I put those stock op amps. I have a small collection of NE5532P's though. It seems like I've been pulling those things out of gear for a while now. I gave a thought to trying a Burson V7C or V7V, but I haven't measured the inside of the case to see if it will fit. Since it barely fits in the V3 mono, and the P4 is almost half an inch shorter, I doubt it will fit. I'm starting to feel like I can live with it the way it is, though.


link to picture of Burson inside V3 Mono case

The Fosi P4 is 1.2" tall. The V3 Mono is 1.6" tall. I doubt it will fit. At least the discreet op-amps don't have wimpy pins that break when you pull them out of the socket. The SS3602 seems to perform well for me, giving a detailed sound although slightly sibilant sometimes. I'd rather have that than a lifeless sound (NE5532P) or a congested sound (MUSE02). Why shouldn't I tune the sound to my liking?

With the right tools I can change op-amps and have the case back together in about 5 minutes, so it's not exhausting. It's fun!
 
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Hmm... I don't know even know where I put those stock op amps. I have a small collection of NE5532P's though. It seems like I've been pulling those things out of gear for a while now. I gave a thought to trying a Burson V7C or V7V, but I haven't measured the inside of the case to see if it will fit. Since it barely fits in the V3 mono, and the P4 is almost half an inch shorter, I doubt it will fit. I'm starting to feel like I can live with it the way it is, though.


link to picture of Burson inside V3 Mono case

The Fosi P4 is 1.2" tall. The V3 Mono is 1.6" tall. I doubt it will fit. At least the discreet op-amps don't have wimpy pins that break when you pull them out of the socket. The SS3602 seems to perform well for me, giving a detailed sound although slightly sibilant sometimes. I'd rather have that than a lifeless sound (NE5532P) or a congested sound (MUSE02). Why shouldn't I tune the sound to my liking?

With the right tools I can change op-amps and have the case back together in about 5 minutes, so it's not exhausting. It's fun!
I understand fun - it's not my idea of fun, but if it makes you happy then rock on! Just know that the sound is not actually changing (at least, you really have no way of telling)

It's a hobby, we enjoy it in our own ways and that's cool
 
I understand fun - it's not my idea of fun, but if it makes you happy then rock on! Just know that the sound is not actually changing (at least, you really have no way of telling)

It's a hobby, we enjoy it in our own ways and that's cool
Since the Burson won't fit I think the Sparkos is the "best" op-amp I can possibly use so I'll unable to have fun rolling op-amps anymore since I won't have a reason to.

Now the fun is just about enjoying music.
 
Well, my perception changes from day to day.

I've often said that I'm the biggest variable in my stereo system. Sounds like you've just said the same thing with slightly different words. Now just admit that you like experimenting with your gear and that affects your mental state when you listen. There is nothing wrong with that. One of the primary goals of listening to music is enjoyment, and your experiments add to that.
 
Well, my perception changes from day to day.

Probably hour to hour also

That perhaps should tell you something.

Maybe - just maybe - the difference you hear is coming from your perception, and not from any technical difference between the op amps.
 
I put the stock NE5532P op-amp back in. I was tired of going back and forth between the Sparkos and the MUSE02.

I didn’t feel like the sound got worse. If anything it sounds more relaxed than the Sparkos. It seems fine now.
 
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This thread is depressing starting straight from the title.
And it would be short of ok if it was about one user alone, but unless you haven't noticed there a party going on with this silly stuff just because the base is beer-cheap and allows for such "experiments"

What's NOT shown in the thread is the amount of junk that has been produced practicing this by putting them wrong/bend feet/opposite/removing them without proper tools/NOT measuring the outcome,etc, and I'm only scratching the surface.

Plain sad.
 
You are surrounded by incredible amount of knowledge and data about what you are doing. Yet you choose to go the opposite way, wasting money. Can do nothing but be let down by the fact that we still have work to do to get people to trust the science and engineering, instead of their instincts.
After changing the op-amp in the Fosi P4 multiple times, going between the Sparkos SS3602 and MUSE02, I put the NE5532P back in and I'm leaving it alone. I've given up on trying to describe the differences, I'm just glad to know that it's working fine now.
 
I put the stock NE5532P op-amp back in. I was tired of going back and forth between the Sparkos and the MUSE02.

I didn’t feel like the sound got worse. If anything it sounds more relaxed than the Sparkos. It seems fine now.
Probably hour to hour also

That perhaps should tell you something.

Maybe - just maybe - the difference you hear is coming from your perception, and not from any technical difference between the op amps.
 
I put the stock NE5532P op-amp back in. I was tired of going back and forth between the Sparkos and the MUSE02.

I didn’t feel like the sound got worse. If anything it sounds more relaxed than the Sparkos. It seems fine now.
OPA2132PA sounds good in the Fosi P4, it feels very detailed.

This is beginning to resemble looking, waddling and quacking like a troll.
 
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