• WANTED: Happy members who like to discuss audio and other topics related to our interest. Desire to learn and share knowledge of science required. There are many reviews of audio hardware and expert members to help answer your questions. Click here to have your audio equipment measured for free!

Sound Town ST-UPDM4C (4 Channel Pro Amp)

Rate this amplifier:

  • 1. Poor (headless panther)

    Votes: 134 94.4%
  • 2. Not terrible (postman panther)

    Votes: 7 4.9%
  • 3. Fine (happy panther)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 4. Great (golfing panther)

    Votes: 1 0.7%

  • Total voters
    142

H-713

Senior Member
Joined
Jan 24, 2021
Messages
379
Likes
666
Usually they're evaluated by the users, and it either behaves well or it doesn't. Often as not, those "users" are the designers of the system - most speaker companies use one or two amplifier brands. For example, L-Acoustics sells their own line of amplifiers, and virtually every L-Acoustics system uses L-Acoustics amplifiers. Funktion One is partnered with MC2 and FFA. Those loudspeaker companies have largely worked with the amplifier companies to make sure that those amplifiers will work with the speaker systems being sold.

There's also a level of trust between the amplifier manufacturers and their end users. The end users expect that the amplifier will perform the way the manufacturer says it will, and the manufacturers know that if their products aren't up to muster, their customers will quickly find out and move to another vendor. The pro audio industry doesn't work all that differently from most other professional industries in this regard (IT, broadcast, industrial automation, etc). Often enough, amplifiers are chosen through a bidding process.

Tests of pro amplifiers is useful for some of us, but I rarely, if ever, have seen real issues caused by pro amplifiers not meeting their specifications. Of course, some amplifiers have a better reputation than others (more often than not, the ones with a bad reputation have a bad reputation for blowing up). The lack of 3rd party testing doesn't seem to be causing a real issue for the live sound people.

The only people who it causes a problem for are people like me who want to "misuse" audio amplifiers for other purposes... in which case, well, we get to do our own testing. I've tested a lot of pro amplifiers, and really haven't encountered too many name-brand pro amps that don't meet their specs, at least those that matter. Sure, some will trip power supply OCP mechanisms if you try to drive them at rated power into 2 ohms continuously... but a sub amplifier is more or less a pulsed-power application anyway.
 

kschmit2

Active Member
Joined
Oct 8, 2018
Messages
167
Likes
270
Conclusion
I have hardly seen any audio device show issues in every test I run but here we are. I don't understand what is going on here. How can they have analyzed the performance using AP yet have so many issues left on the table? Did they design change post those measurements? This is the frequency response from the manual:

View attachment 172528

It shows flat response to 20 Hz. Notice the date is 2003. Is it really that old of a design?

Anyway, I can't recommend the Sound Town ST-UPDM4C.

-----------
As always, questions, comments, recommendations, etc. are welcome.

Any donations are much appreciated using: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/how-to-support-audio-science-review.8150/
@amirm the company seems to know about ASR, after all they released a new manual v2 (https://www.soundtown.com/products/st-updm4c):

ST-UPDM4C User Manual (v2) - purchased after 03.02.22
ST-UPDM4C User Manual (v1) - discontinued

Updated contents:
- the date (not the time of day of the tests) on the AP diagrams. The diagrams themselves are identical.
- THD (old version <0.005 % vs. new version <0.03 %)
- S/N Ratio (Amp) (old version 112 db(A-weighted) vs. new version 108 db(A-weighted))
- some other changes
 
Top Bottom