Sonos has a new thing

[Graham849]

Interesting

https://twitter.com/x/status/1846543966100934776

 

[Petrushka]

Interesting

https://twitter.com/x/status/1846543966100934776

We will be following their career with great interest.

At my age, dialog is more important than fidelity.

They promise to have the app fixed before delivering this product.

 

[Petrushka]

Hopefully, not Bose Lifestyle II.

 

[tmtomh]

This was posted on Reddit, from a self-described small blogger. They say it's from the press kit and they shared it after the embargo date had passed, so I presume it's okay to share here. I gather the core design element is multiple motors and voice coils controlling a single driver or driver assembly... maybe?

 

[GD Fan]

Sonos is more of an app than a speaker company. The app is garbage and the version 1.0 speakers we have seem to be controlled by poltergeist. Not another dollar to Sonos, ever.

 

[Old_School_Brad]

Opposing membranes with magnets/motors on the side so the package can be as slim as possible.
The structure would need to be very rigid if a force is acting upon it from the side. The application for such a driver would have to have size as the ultimate criteria as I think this is an expensive device to manufacture to last.

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[Laagman]

I think Sonos is teasing this product in that video: https://www.sonos.com/nl-nl/shop/arc-ultra

 

[Purité Audio]

I believe Martijn ( Mensink) was evaluating the Mayht drivers at one point, pre sonos.
Keith

 

[Shorty]

Sonos is more of an app than a speaker company. The app is garbage and the version 1.0 speakers we have seem to be controlled by poltergeist. Not another dollar to Sonos, ever.

Your mileage obviously varies from mine. I have been using Sonos products (Connect, Bridge) for close to twenty years, and they have been working almost flawlessly (knock knock). And in all those twenty years Sonos has been updating the software for this old hardware. My old Connects can handle every streaming service on the planet and even allow the integration of apps like the one from Radio France (with its numerous specialty music streams).
For casual listening, we have been using a pair of Play:1 speakers in our kitchen for almost ten years and, since a couple of years, we have an Ikea Sonos Symfonisk for outside use. Again, without any hiccups.
All this is just as much anecdotal as your regrettable experience, but it’s to illustrate that your sweeping statements have little value.

 

[holdingpants01]

Seems like this new soundbar is mainly delivering more low end compared to old one. I was planning on getting Arc for my TV along with the mini sub, but I think I'll get Arc Ultra and see if I really need a sub

 

[Old_School_Brad]

Your mileage obviously varies from mine. I have been using Sonos products (Connect, Bridge) for close to twenty years, and they have been working almost flawlessly (knock knock). And in all those twenty years Sonos has been updating the software for this old hardware. My old Connects can handle every streaming service on the planet and even allow the integration of apps like the one from Radio France (with its numerous specialty music streams).
For casual listening, we have been using a pair of Play:1 speakers in our kitchen for almost ten years and, since a couple of years, we have an Ikea Sonos Symfonisk for outside use. Again, without any hiccups.
All this is just as much anecdotal as your regrettable experience, but it’s to illustrate that your sweeping statements have little value.

Well, yes. That's my experience as well. But let's not forget the that they in 2020 tried to end software updates for older devices. Essentially making them non-compatible with newer products. Only when faced with harsh criticism from users, they changed it. So while their products are in fact quite good, that stunt made quite a dent in their reputation.

 

[Mnyb]

Don't we have an old tread on the mayt driver ?

Sure they can work on packaging but it still displacement in the end , so revolutionary nah . it's just smaller , i have a house my speakers fit inside

 

[Mnyb]

Don't we have an old tread on the mayt driver ?

Sure they can work on packaging but it still displacement in the end , so revolutionary nah . it's just smaller , i have a house my speakers fit inside

This remark was a bit tongue in cheek ... It's still a dynamic driver with cones.

Sure size can mean a lot for portable stuff we probable also see it in vehicles and flat TV's possibly ? ( who have terrible speakers today )

 

[somebodyelse]

Sonos is more of an app than a speaker company. The app is garbage and the version 1.0 speakers we have seem to be controlled by poltergeist. Not another dollar to Sonos, ever.

Your mileage obviously varies from mine. I have been using Sonos products (Connect, Bridge) for close to twenty years, and they have been working almost flawlessly (knock knock). And in all those twenty years Sonos has been updating the software for this old hardware. My old Connects can handle every streaming service on the planet and even allow the integration of apps like the one from Radio France (with its numerous specialty music streams).
For casual listening, we have been using a pair of Play:1 speakers in our kitchen for almost ten years and, since a couple of years, we have an Ikea Sonos Symfonisk for outside use. Again, without any hiccups.
All this is just as much anecdotal as your regrettable experience, but it’s to illustrate that your sweeping statements have little value.

Your anecdotes represent the two extremes of the experience for Sonos customers. Individually they have little value, but taken over the whole Sonos user base it has been damaging in direct financial cost, lost confidence from a significant portion of customers, and delays to future product releases. Links to sources in https://www.audiosciencereview.com/.../dont-install-the-new-sonos-app-update.54585/

 

[GD Fan]

Your mileage obviously varies from mine. I have been using Sonos products (Connect, Bridge) for close to twenty years, and they have been working almost flawlessly (knock knock). And in all those twenty years Sonos has been updating the software for this old hardware. My old Connects can handle every streaming service on the planet and even allow the integration of apps like the one from Radio France (with its numerous specialty music streams).
For casual listening, we have been using a pair of Play:1 speakers in our kitchen for almost ten years and, since a couple of years, we have an Ikea Sonos Symfonisk for outside use. Again, without any hiccups.
All this is just as much anecdotal as your regrettable experience, but it’s to illustrate that your sweeping statements have little value.

Glad to hear your experience has been so much better than ours. But I agree your experience is anecdotal and therefore your lengthy statement has equally little value.

 

[Petrushka]

Well, yes. That's my experience as well. But let's not forget the that they in 2020 tried to end software updates for older devices. Essentially making them non-compatible with newer products. Only when faced with harsh criticism from users, they changed it. So while their products are in fact quite good, that stunt made quite a dent in their reputation.

The interesting thing is they responded to their customers.

Apple has made older iMacs unusable by refusing to update Safari. The result is, banks will not allow you to log on.

I bought Outlook for the iMac, and Microsoft recently bricked it, said I had to buy Office 365.

Sonos screwed up by forcing an update that lacked important features. It was a major error. I wish I knew what they were thinking.

But unlike Apple and Microsoft, they are gradually fixing the app. Some people hate the new interface, but the old one had serious flaws. But it has ten times the functionality of the completion.

Roon is slightly more capable in some aspects, but Roon doesn’t support any of the streaming services I use.

 

[Petrushka]

Glad to hear your experience has been so much better than ours. But I agree your experience is anecdotal and therefore your lengthy statement has equally little value.

In the case of consumer products, the plural of anecdote is success or failure.

 

[Petrushka]

Your anecdotes represent the two extremes of the experience for Sonos customers. Individually they have little value, but taken over the whole Sonos user base it has been damaging in direct financial cost, lost confidence from a significant portion of customers, and delays to future product releases. Links to sources in https://www.audiosciencereview.com/.../dont-install-the-new-sonos-app-update.54585/

Vista, Windows 8,Windows11.

I actually think Windows 11 is great. Too bad it makes any computer over five years old unusable for business.

Sonos will recover, because they acknowledged (reluctantly) the problem and are fixing it.

 

[somebodyelse]

The interesting thing is they responded to their customers.

But only after the event when the reaction was entirely predictable. And they failed to learn from it, because if they had they would have avoided the v2 to v3 transition trouble.

Sonos screwed up by forcing an update that lacked important features. It was a major error. I wish I knew what they were thinking.

Based on this reporting they were pushing for the launch of the eagerly anticipated new product, which needed v3, and ignoring the engineers actually working on the software who were shouting and screaming in meetings that it wasn't ready for release.

 

[Timcognito]

Opposing membranes with magnets/motors on the side so the package can be as slim as possible.
The structure would need to be very rigid if a force is acting upon it from the side. The application for such a driver would have to have size as the ultimate criteria as I think this is an expensive device to manufacture to last.


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More info and animations:

Building the best speaker ever

For a long time, the slogan regarding speakers was ‘the bigger the better’. The brothers Timothy and Mattias Scheek turned this concept around and developed a speaker that is a tenth of the original size but can produce the same sound. Their powerful, compact technology has numerous applications...

www.tudelft.nl

Patent Review: Low Profile Loudspeaker Device

James Croft explores patents granted to Mattias and Timothy Scheek, on behalf of Mayht Holding B.V. Our readers will recognize the name from the April 2022 announcement of the acquisition by Sonos of Mayht Holding BV, for "$100 million in existing cash on hand.” Having followed their work...

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This was interesting also from the bottom Brad's post. A ultra-low profile single side radiating speaker. Thinking in-wall LF speaker

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This review looks at a patent awarded in October 2016 to George Bullimore, on behalf of Tymphany. Considering the number of patents on shallow drivers, and the fact that the inventor also previously developed transducers for Harman International and holds other key patents, this is no doubt an...

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