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Some actually believe that music from different drive types (SSD,HDD) or different SATA cables can sound different

Doodski said:
At the axis. :p
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You can stick that through the sphere in any direction, and it will all look the same, though. Same for a line drawn tangent to the sphere-it looks the same no matter where on the sphere you place it.
 
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storing said:
In this particular case, this was in neuroscience, looking at/listening to the electrical signal generated by a single brain cell, which drowns in noise from the surrounding cells and, well, a ton of other noise sources. A cell firing looks a whole lot like the type of artefact antcollinet's screenshot shows. One (or usually a couple of, depending on sampling rate) sample clearly sticking out amongst the surrounding signal.

Not really: 1 full scale sample sticking out of 'noise' with .9 amplitude is harder to spot (both visually and audibly) that one full scale sample against .3 amplitude.
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Weren’t we talking about musical signals? Also “harder” is not impossible. We have all sorts of tools for expanding signal charts in the time and amplitude directions.
 
ahofer said:
Weren’t we talking about musical signals?
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Yes, but the similarity between what a brain cell signal can look like and single FS samples in music is rather striking so that set me off.
Plus, as some of the more eccentric people in the field would say: brain cell signals are muscial :)
 
Storing, its not emi or rf or anything else it's IRQs and poor software driver design that causes the audible glitches.
 
Wait, is this limited to stand alone audio CD players or also including CDrom trays in old 90s computers? Back in the day, one dared not even think about playing Minesweeper lest it puke. Win95/IDE/IRQs sucked hardcore.
You really wanted a SCSI or later Firewire for PC based systems.
 
sq225917 said:
Storing, its not emi or rf or anything else it's IRQs and poor software driver design that causes the audible glitches.
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Indeed. Sometimes file I/O could just freeze from seconds to a large chunk of a minute.
Especially if one had external serial port drives such as a ZIP connected.
 
mhardy6647 said:
Well, technically, nor does an amplifier or even, say, a reel to reel tape recorder/player.
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Arc78 said:
Well of course you are correct about the CD anyone tried a CD knows that small scratches or stains causes errors in the playback artefacts and sound errors. That is not happening inside a computer if a file is not read correct you receive a read error. This is what happen if you have a failing hard drive. The system crash if you try to execute files from it no matter if it is SSD or a magnetic. Random read and write errors is not a working condition for a computer but a serious condition that cause recurring crashes and failure, a audio CD has a much different system trying to read and accepting errors and trying to play after the misread bit. The idea of selling special things for computer drives that are more hi fi is a scam..
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The development of "special things" are why we no longer need to have forklifts to move around our IBM 350 Disk File.
 
sq225917 said:
Storing, its not emi or rf or anything else it's IRQs and poor software driver design that causes the audible glitches.
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If you're talking modern/external soundcards then yes, that's usually just chunks of the audio stream being skipped.

My original example was old on-board soundcards though, and that was definitely (also) EMI: audio plays fine, no glitches, but extra audible signals being mixed in when certain peripherals and/or main data bus being used.
 
steveminnesota said:
Read these with translation please, all from a fairly large "HIFI" form in China, I went there for some STAX headphone reviews but saw these along the way.

固态硬盘的音质的确不如机械硬盘 - 台式耳机系统 -耳机俱乐部论坛

反复听存在固态硬盘和仓库盘(机械硬盘)的同一首歌,机械硬盘的音质要比固态硬盘的好,以后音乐文件还是存在仓库盘里听比较好! 固态硬盘的音质的确不如机械硬盘 ,耳机俱乐部论坛
www.headphoneclub.com

提示信息 -耳机俱乐部论坛

,耳机俱乐部论坛
www.headphoneclub.com

Mind blowing how people actually buy this sh*t. Common enough that some will believe things like Audioquest's overpriced $1,000 HDMI cable, but SATA cable? Hard drives? REALLY? Wonder what's next, Hi-Fi keyboard? Hi-Fi home lamp? Hi-Fi doorbell?

But of course, some are probably sellers of these BS cables or even manufacturers themselves.
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I don't buy into expensive hype, but hard drives definitely sound different.
Many cables sound different.
Come visit me..
I will prove beyond any doubt night and day difference between some drives.

I built my first few DACs.
I used Maplin hook up wire initially.
Put the completed DAC at the back of a cupboard in disgust.
A year later I dug it out, listened again and mused on whether better, single core wire would be different.
Changed it out for 5N silver and boom!
Transformation.
Multi strand Vs solid core speaker cable - utterly different.
Usb cable between PC and DAC changed to Silver, huge improvement.
However, if your gear can't reveal nuances, you won't get to hear them so much will you?
 
:) where is the anti-subjective police?
 
Urxle said:
I don't buy into expensive hype, but hard drives definitely sound different.
Many cables sound different.
Come visit me..
I will prove beyond any doubt night and day difference between some drives.

I built my first few DACs.
I used Maplin hook up wire initially.
Put the completed DAC at the back of a cupboard in disgust.
A year later I dug it out, listened again and mused on whether better, single core wire would be different.
Changed it out for 5N silver and boom!
Transformation.
Multi strand Vs solid core speaker cable - utterly different.
Usb cable between PC and DAC changed to Silver, huge improvement.
However, if your gear can't reveal nuances, you won't get to hear them so much will you?
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When you can back up your opinions with measurements - or properly controlled and docuemented double blind tests, we might have something to talk about.

Until then - that is not how we do things round here. Neither unsupported opinions, nor anecdotes, nor stories have any value.


Welcome to the forum BTW :p
 
For hard drives, you could do an online demo, like Archimago. But I’m not holding my breath.

“Come visit me”…no address info.
 
Urxle said:
I don't buy into expensive hype, but hard drives definitely sound different.
Many cables sound different.
Come visit me..
I will prove beyond any doubt night and day difference between some drives.

I built my first few DACs.
I used Maplin hook up wire initially.
Put the completed DAC at the back of a cupboard in disgust.
A year later I dug it out, listened again and mused on whether better, single core wire would be different.
Changed it out for 5N silver and boom!
Transformation.
Multi strand Vs solid core speaker cable - utterly different.
Usb cable between PC and DAC changed to Silver, huge improvement.
However, if your gear can't reveal nuances, you won't get to hear them so much will you?
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I'm calling 'house!' in the audiophool buzzword bingo game.
 
Urxle said:
I don't buy into expensive hype, but hard drives definitely sound different.
Many cables sound different.
Come visit me..
I will prove beyond any doubt night and day difference between some drives.
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