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Sold my Nord Three 1ET7040SA Monos — Upgrading to 1ET9040BA MB MKII Flagship

Tone said:
No, I meant an understanding of where I'm coming from.

Thank you Sokel.

:)
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I started off asking you where you were coming from and you dodged answering it. Any time I've tried to have a good faith discussion with you (including when you PM me out of the blue), you just dance around. Or bring religion/belief into it. It gets old.
 
Sokel said:
Conditions is the death of blanket statements.
Anything can be ok at its intended use and conditions.

Hook them up to 100dB sens horns and let them cruise.
Hook them up to an arc-welder demanding amp speaker, 80dB sens at a big room and watch the lesser one cry.

So...
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I guess the issue might be our definition of the amps "limit". If the speaker/setup being used is stressing the amp in a way to change its audible output, that's past its limits, no?

Or what would you mean by "cry"?
 
Buckeye Amps said:
I guess the issue might be our definition of the amps "limit". If the speaker/setup being used is stressing the amp in a way to change its audible output, that's past its limits, no?

Or what would you mean by "cry"?
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This is what I mean.
How do we define the point at which less capable is actually audibly less capable?

Answers on a postcard..
 
Buckeye Amps said:
I guess the issue might be our definition of the amps "limit". If the speaker/setup being used is stressing the amp in a way to change its audible output, thats past its limits, no?

Or what would you mean by "cry"?
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My comment was specifically about your A-B test.
As in any other test conditions are crucial and must be carefully predefined.

If you added something like "at 95dB sens speakers, nearfield " etc, I wouldn't have a problem, at all.
But your A-B in general, include me for example, which I can make a smaller amp cry with my conditions.
 
Sokel said:
My comment was specifically about your A-B test.
As in any other test conditions are crucial and must be carefully predefined.

If you added something like "at 95dB sens speakers, nearfield " etc, I wouldn't have a problem, at all.
But your A-B in general, include me for example, which I can make a smaller amp cry with my conditions.
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Why some hear things that others do not.
 
Sokel said:
My comment was specifically about your A-B test.
As in any other test conditions are crucial and must be carefully predefined.

If you added something like "at 95dB sens speakers, nearfield " etc, I wouldn't have a problem, at all.
But your A-B in general, include me for example, which I can make a smaller amp cry with my conditions.
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Sorry, I had assumed we had the same pre-determined AB scenario definition, like we would for comparing changes to the same amp such as OP amps or binding posts (so a scenario where the base setup isn't inherently pushing the amp into audible issue range anyways).

Which is why my original question used the phrase "not past its capabilities"
 
The fairies at the bottom of the garden have reappeared and the leprechauns are all on ketamine.....
 
Buckeye Amps said:
Sorry, I had assumed we had the same pre-determined AB scenario definition, like we would for comparing changes to the same amp such as OP amps or binding posts (so a scenario where the base setup isn't inherently pushing the amp into audible issue range anyways).

Which is why my original question used the phrase "not past its capabilities"
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It crossed my mind but still, where the word "test" appears, "conditions" must be right next to it, so no assumptions can be made.
Devil is at the details.
 
@Tone

So if I blind A/B test (conditions stated below) a 1ET6525 and 1ET9040 on a set of speakers and content that are not pushing the 6525 past its capabilities, will the 9040 sound better just because it is "more capable"?

*90dB speakers, 4ohm nominal, near field, the 1ET6525 is not clipping or running out of power/current delivery
 
Buckeye Amps said:
@Tone

So if I blind A/B test (conditions stated below) a 1ET6525 and 1ET9040 on a set of speakers and content that are not pushing the 6525 past its capabilities, will the 9040 sound better just because it is "more capable"?

*90dB speakers, 4ohm nominal, near field, the 1ET6525 is not clipping or running out of power/current delivery
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Like Sokel said, conditional.
We also define them based on experience.

Produced, received, then perceived.

Lol.
 
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