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Sold my Nord Three 1ET7040SA Monos — Upgrading to 1ET9040BA MB MKII Flagship

I removed all the oxygen from my sealed listening room - just having nitrogen made a massive improvement to my speakers, as a man on the internet said it would. Sadly, there isn't time for a proper blind test, so I'll just remain right on this point, unless you give me your evidence to the contrary.
 
  • Russell's teapot: ”The philosophic burden of proof lies upon a person making empirically unfalsifiable claims, as opposed to shifting the burden of disproof to others”.
  • Brandolini's law: ”The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than that needed to produce it”.
So it’s only fair you start with presenting evidence.

Fair point on Russell’s teapot – I’m not asking anyone to believe in anything on my say‑so. I’m reporting what I hear in my own system and I’m perfectly happy to label that as anecdotal.

At the same time, if the community position is “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence”, then “all fuses are always audibly identical in every implementation” is also an extraordinary claim if it’s not backed by controlled data either. Right now we mostly have measurements that rarely look at fuses in situ, and a lot of very confident opinions on both sides.

I’m not trying to convert anyone; if someone thinks it’s nonsense, they can just ignore that part of my post. What I find more interesting is why a couple of fuses in one person’s system generate more heat than a kilowatt of amplification and DSP ever do.
 
Fair point on Russell’s teapot – I’m not asking anyone to believe in anything on my say‑so. I’m reporting what I hear in my own system and I’m perfectly happy to label that as anecdotal.

At the same time, if the community position is “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence”, then “all fuses are always audibly identical in every implementation” is also an extraordinary claim if it’s not backed by controlled data either. Right now we mostly have measurements that rarely look at fuses in situ, and a lot of very confident opinions on both sides.

I’m not trying to convert anyone; if someone thinks it’s nonsense, they can just ignore that part of my post. What I find more interesting is why a couple of fuses in one person’s system generate more heat than a kilowatt of amplification and DSP ever do.
ASR members have very low (some say zero) tolerance for BS. Even if you are not trying to convert anyone, we are trying to stop those BS.
Maybe someday you will be converted yourself.
 
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It shouldn’t be a point of contention in this forum that amps with distortion lower than -100dB, flat frequency and phase response have no audible differences.

I’ve never understood the whole deal with trading amplifiers every couple of years.

Hey, if wasting money makes your system sound better, have at it.
 
At the same time, if the community position is “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence”, then “all fuses are always audibly identical in every implementation” is also an extraordinary claim if it’s not backed by controlled data either.
I'm not sure anyone is saying fuses are audibly identical in every implementation. That leaves room for some sort of pathological "gotcha" edge case in which they aren't.
In any event, the "extraordinary" claims argument can't simply be pointed at anything you disagree with. By that logic, if I said I can levitate because my big toe could negate gravity, any counterclaims would also require extraordinary evidence

Right now we mostly have measurements that rarely look at fuses in situ, and a lot of very confident opinions on both sides.

Not sure what you mean...right now, every single measurement already includes the effect of any fuses that are in situ.
 
Do you really expect to hear a difference? :rolleyes:

That’s what I was thinking. Nord seems to make nice amps. Not sure why they aren’t more popular in the USA. The OP’s new amp measures demonstrably better than his previous amp, but will it be audibly better? I’m skeptical on that.

However, I’m not faulting the OP for making the change. A pursuit of “better” and “personal gratification” is part of the fun of the hobby. I myself got the Buckeye version of this amp. Enjoy the new amps @Cpopovic !
 
Here's a 28 page thread started 10 years ago, plenty of info in there;
Some of the many comments of note;
Fuses are typically used in three different circuits in an audio component:
1] AC power supply.
2] DC power supply.
3] Audio output of a power amplifier.
The audiophiles that hear these differences never mention which circuit the fuse is in.

Moving on, Bob Cordell is his great book "Designing Audio Power Amplifies" did measure fuse THD in an audio output stage.
It's section '13.11 Fuse, Relay and Connector Distortion' page 268.
Conclusion:
"At 20 Hz, amplifier distortion due to the fuse is calculated to be 0.0033 %."
Most competently designed amplifiers do not use fuses in the speaker line or in the feedback loop for protection. Placing anything in the main feedback loop that requires monitoring the voltage drop across a very low resistance is a recipe for disaster. At the point of failure the entire amplifier goes open loop and the results are generally not pretty.
Further discussion on this should be in that old but still current thread, last post 8th of Feb 2026.


JSmith
 
ASR members have very low (some say zero) tolerance for BS. Even if you are not trying to convert anyone, we are trying not stop those BS.
Maybe someday you will be converted yourself.
The fuse was a tiny, incidental part of the post; some people just fixated on it and turned the thread into a side debate instead of addressing the main point about how the mono amplifiers actually behave. A bit more tolerance would help keep this thread focused on the main point. I forgive you all ;)
 
  • Ultra-low distortion and noise floor: <0.0001% THD+N (vs 0.00035% on the 7040SA) and a 137dB SNR (vs 129dB) for enhanced transparency.
  • High damping factors: >500 (vs ~400) for superior bass control and authority with demanding speakers.
  • Increased dynamic headroom: 375W/8Ω, 750W/4Ω, and 925W/2Ω (compared to 250W/8Ω, 500W/4Ω, and 950W/2Ω).
Where is this information?
All I see on the Nord website is waffling about how opamps improve tonal density. Where are the actual specs?
 
The fuse was a tiny, incidental part of the post; some people just fixated on it and turned the thread into a side debate instead of addressing the main point about how the mono amplifiers actually behave. A bit more tolerance would help keep this thread focused on the main point. I forgive you all ;)
nah,
we all know that both of your amps - old and new are SOTA performance and nothing is differently audible from them.
your "other" equipment are more interesting to talk about.
 
How do you know this? The latest modules show such low noise and distortion that the measurements are mainly driven by the input buffer.
In the new Nord Three 1ET9040BA mono amps, I was specifically referring to the Weiss BP2 op-amp used in the input buffer, but I didn’t make that clear enough. To clarify, I’d measure it in-circuit under identical conditions, keeping the gain, load, supply voltage, and source material constant. By comparing the noise floor, THD+N, frequency response, output level, DC offset, and stability, you can see where the buffer’s behavior ends and the Purifi module’s behavior begins. Since the change is in the buffer stage, the comparison should be framed as a careful listening or measurement test of that specific stage, not proof of a universal result
 
How do you know this? The latest modules show such low noise and distortion that the measurements are mainly driven by the input buffer.

I could probably cite Purifi’s specs for the 7040 vs the 9040, but I just based it on the OP:

“These units utilize the Purifi 1ET9040BA module, offering superior performance over the 1ET7040SA with <0.0001% THD+N, a 137dB SNR, and higher damping factors. Featuring the Nord REV D input buffer and specialized Hypex power supplies, they deliver 375W/8Ω, 750W/4Ω, and 925W/2Ω for significantly increased output headroom. [1]
My objectives for this upgrade, beyond pure curiosity, focus on these measurable technical improvements:

  • Ultra-low distortion and noise floor: <0.0001% THD+N (vs 0.00035% on the 7040SA) and a 137dB SNR (vs 129dB) for enhanced transparency.
  • High damping factors: >500 (vs ~400) for superior bass control and authority with demanding speakers.
  • Increased dynamic headroom: 375W/8Ω, 750W/4Ω, and 925W/2Ω (compared to 250W/8Ω, 500W/4Ω, and 950W/2Ω).”
 
What measurements on fuses should be done that could show anything either way?

Maybe a lightning strike? Or attach a speaker cable to the amp and while using a blow dryer on the other end to shrink the banana plug plastic wrapping accidently short out the blow dryer on the banana plug. :D
 
That’s what I was thinking. Nord seems to make nice amps. Not sure why they aren’t more popular in the USA. The OP’s new amp measures demonstrably better than his previous amp, but will it be audibly better? I’m skeptical on that.

However, I’m not faulting the OP for making the change. A pursuit of “better” and “personal gratification” is part of the fun of the hobby. I myself got the Buckeye version of this amp. Enjoy the new amps @Cpopovic !
shipping to US especially with tariff is problematic. Already buckeye and VTV to choose from.

The OP’s new amp measures demonstrably better than his previous amp, but will it be audibly better? I’m skeptical on that.
No definitely not
 
It shouldn’t be a point of contention in this forum that amps with distortion lower than -100dB, flat frequency and phase response have no audible differences.

I’ve never understood the whole deal with trading amplifiers every couple of years.

Hey, if wasting money makes your system sound better, have at it.
someone has the money and wants the best/latest. His friend offered to buy his old amp on the spot - supposedly at reasonably good price, so I would understand if he wants to upgrade. Many of us do the same thing - I did upgrade my coffee machine because I want something nicer with new features. The espressos they make - can't tell a difference

and people change cars every other years. if they have the money and they want to do that, so be it.

Upgrading amp for better sound is an entirely different thing though
 
someone has the money and wants the best/latest. His friend offered to buy his old amp on the spot - supposedly at reasonably good price, so I would understand if he wants to upgrade. Many of us do the same thing - I did upgrade my coffee machine because I want something nicer with new features. The espressos they make - can't tell a difference

and people change cars every other years. if they have the money and they want to do that, so be it.

Upgrading amp for better sound is an entirely different thing though
I have no problem with the OP wanting to own one of the finest amps on the market for whatever reason.
Without knowing which speakers the OP is using or how loud he likes to listen on occasion or how large the listening area is, we do not have enough information to know whether the upgrade is likely to deliver audible results.
I hope he enjoys his new amps.
 
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