so, I am being catty -- but... DAC burn-in(?!)

[mhardy6647]

Looking at a thread Someplace Else about someone's new DAC and this screenshot (from the DAC itself, I guess... EDIT: or maybe their website) kind of caught my eye.

(SEE screenshot below from the product website)

I mean, what happens if the owner gets busy and lets it burn in for eight days?

On the other hand, it is encouraging to see that the balanced output of this DAC isn't just superior -- it's more superior, dang it!


EDIT^2: ahh, here 'tis, from their website.

MUSICIAN Draco R2R DAC

R2R Array DAC True Balance R-2R network controL decoding linear error, high decoding speed, Low digital noise, not only to ensure low distortion of the audio signal, but also to ensure very Low background noise music. Self-Developed Technology Make the sound more outstanding. Using...

www.linsoul.com

 

[antcollinet]

Sound will char and blacken.

 

[mhardy6647]

Sound will char and blacken.

toasty bits.

mmmmm-mmmmmmmmm!

 

[tomtoo]

Burn in time of a dac?

Sure my first pentium needet at least 2 weeks before it could add numbers correctly.

 

[XpanD]

Burn in time of a dac?

Sure my first pentium needet at least 2 weeks before it could add numbers correctly.

To be fair...

Pentium FDIV bug - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

(though that was dividing, not adding)

 

[MakeMineVinyl]

In the morning I always turn on my electric shaver and let it burn-in for 30 minutes before shaving. The problem is that I can only shave half my face before the battery runs out, so I'm forced to shave each half of my face on alternate days. I'm firmly convinced though that the burn-in produces a much better shave on the half of my face that I'm able to shave.

 

[tomtoo]

Burn in time of a dac?

Sure my first pentium needet at least 2 weeks before it could add numbers correctly

To be fair...

Pentium FDIV bug - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

(though that was dividing, not adding)

Yes, but how long you think you had to burn it in, until the bug was gone?

 

[Doodski]

When I was retailing audio gear I worked with a mish mash of peeps. Some had a degree, some had a high school education and others the school of hard knocks. It made no sense of who was prone to the urban rumors/audio myths. Burn-in was one of those myths. There was a couple of peeps that adamantly advised customers to, "Let it burn/break in." It did not matter what the thing was it needed burn-in/break-in. I never advised to burn-in/break-in stuFF and I think it was a unscrupulous mindset that made these peeps advise to burn-in/break-in the gear. The customers took the advise and so the myth was perpetuated. Now it has become a self sustaining myth in that so many peeps believe it to be true that others join the bandwagon too without any proof. When I asked why they thought burn-in/break-in works they had nothing to contribute and I was shunned for days after and so the forces where trying to make me one of them.

 

[tomtoo]

When I was retailing audio gear I worked with a mish mash of peeps. Some had a degree, some had a high school education and others the school of hard knocks. It made no sense of who was prone to the urban rumors/audio myths. Burn-in was one of those myths. There was a couple of peeps that adamantly advised customers to, "Let it burn/break in." It did not matter what the thing was it needed burn-in/break-in. I never advised to burn-in/break-in stuFF and I think it was a unscrupulous mindset that made these peeps advise to burn-in/break-in the gear. The customers took the advise and so the myth was perpetuated. Now it has become a self sustaining myth in that so many peeps believe it to be true that others join the bandwagon too without any proof. When I asked why they thought burn-in/break-in works they had nothing to contribute and I was shunned for days after and so the forces where trying to make me one of them.

Why i should burn in?
Couse it sounds better!
And why it sounds better?
Couse you burned it in, idiot!

 

[dazzerfong]

Know why burn-in is usually set to 200 hours or more? It equates to 8 days or so - that's more than the usual 7 days return window.

 

[Blumlein 88]

Way back then I always thought it had to be on for a week before Temps stabilize in the dacs. Clocks like stable Temps. Didn't matter if it was old or new. Longer it was on better it sounded.

 

[Doodski]

Clocks like stable Temps.

I've worked with gear that have a thermally controlled little oven sort of thing for keeping the clocks accurate but I don't think a DAC has that issue. Am I wrong?

 

[Blumlein 88]

I've worked with gear that have a thermally controlled little oven sort of thing for keeping the clocks accurate but I don't think a DAC has that issue. Am I wrong?

Actually my zen tour interface has an oven like that.

 

[SKBubba]

Burn OUT time of a dac would be of more concern.

 

[Doodski]

Actually my zen tour interface has an oven like that.

Cool. I've only seen the oven used in instrumentation/test gear. That must be a pretty nice piece of gear.

 

[antcollinet]

I've worked with gear that have a thermally controlled little oven sort of thing for keeping the clocks accurate but I don't think a DAC has that issue. Am I wrong?

No, you are right. A dac doesn't need a thermally stabiilsed clock. Any more than your wristwatch does.