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Snobbery in Hi-Fi. Why are people so stupid and turn their noses up at gear costing much less which is just as good?

john61ct said:
Not to mention NYC, not cars so much, but importance of status, "appearance as religion" very much so, possessions often seem to comprise people's entire personality
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They have personality? I thought that they were trying to emulate high brow art that is attached to the walls!
 
john61ct said:
Yes I meant in wealthy circles, music art creative society, more than office workers.

As opposed to the same context in say Chicago and Atlanta, or in Australian cities, where I lived most of my adult life.

Europe just as much as NYC though, to the point that even working class people let you know you're letting society down by not making much effort before stepping out in public.

Asia as well, but being THAT obviously an outsider they cut you more slack.
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Again, maybe if you were looking for these people, you will notice them even if they don't exist.

I don't notice these people, because I don't care about other people, I care about myself and how I can enjoy life for myself.
 
john61ct said:
Not to mention NYC, not cars so much, but importance of status, "appearance as religion" very much so, possessions often seem to comprise people's entire personality
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sex in the city isn’t real life, it’s a TV show.

john61ct said:
As opposed to the same context in say Chicago and Atlanta, or in Australian cities, where I lived most of my adult life.
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So basically everywhere except Atlanta and Chicago… lol.

john61ct said:
Europe just as much as NYC though, to the point that even working class people let you know you're letting society down by not making much effort before stepping out in public.
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So you’re saying people in NYC take the time to notice you, and then actually care.

You’re carrying an unnecessary burden - let it go. Those people you think care, really don’t, (even if you really want them to).
 
Westsounds said:
Well ok labels are not always nice I’ll give you that. And people's choice is just that. But when they are not really gaining anything other than in their own perception it’s kind of stupid, because people are overspending when there is no need to. The money could be put to better use for instance. But it’s their money I suppose, but if we are talking about making change for the general population better, which I believe this forum does, why not at least discuss it. If a label like stupid is put out there to do it so be it.
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A Toyota is actually a better in terms of functionality than a Porsche. It's more reliable, has better build quality, more boot space. A Casio watch is definitely a better and more functional product than a Patek Philippe as it's waterproof. Those are far larger differences than between Hi-Fi equipment. The differences between most electronics are completely inaudible.
 
john61ct said:
In many such circles interior design and fashion itself counts as "art"

(insert Meryl Steep tirade here)
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They are, along with everything else. Artists live in art. Organizing conceptually, seeing perspectives. Musicians are the same with sound. Thank god someone takes the time to. Then they rebuild and organize the elements most take for granted into things that help us think and feel.
 
Groove01 said:
Those people you think care, really don’t, (even if you really want them to).
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I lived in an outer borough of NYC a combined total of 10 years. All of my family except for one sister and her family still lives in NYC and Long Island.

I think I am qualified to say that most people in NYC genuinely don't care about anyone else, if you are a poor homeless person panhandling on the streets, they will walk by you as if you don't exist. If you are a rich person wearing a 3 piece suit, coming out of a limo to go to Del Frisco's, and if you so happen to block the sidewalks, they will cuss you out. That is NYC, no one's gives a crap about anyone else.
 
BobbyTimmons said:
A Toyota is actually a better in terms of functionality than a Porsche. It's more reliable, has better build quality, more boot space. A Casio watch is definitely a better and more functional product than a Patek Philippe as it's waterproof. Those are far larger differences than between Hi-Fi equipment. The differences between most electronics are completely inaudible.
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Did you just nail the point of this thread?!
 
BobbyTimmons said:
A Toyota is actually a better in terms of functionality than a Porsche. It's more reliable, has better build quality, more boot space. A Casio watch is definitely a better and more functional product than a Patek Philippe as it's waterproof. Those are far larger differences than between Hi-Fi equipment. The differences between most electronics are completely inaudible.
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H'mm I worked for Porsche for about 5 years, they are quite reliable IF you do the maintenance as specified. I also owned Toyota, by way of Lexus, they are more forgiving if you do not keep up with the maintenance. But the Lexus had to be modified to handle well (different struts, tires, anti-sway bars, etc). Yep, they have more boot space but, how much do you need for 2 people? Actually, based on what you could fit into it, my Honda Fit was the top. It to required different suspension and some engine mods to make it able to get out of the way of people (which happened to also increase the fuel economy). But, again, it went down in value drastically. Toyota and Honda's values don't drop of a cliff like some but they are not likely to appreciate in 4 or 10 years.
And Casio and Patek Philippe comparison, which one will is more likely to increase in value or decrease in value?
 
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PristineSound said:
I lived in an outer borough of NYC a combined total of 10 years. All of my family except for one sister and her family still lives in NYC and Long Island.

I think I am qualified to say that most people in NYC genuinely don't care about anyone else, if you are a poor homeless person panhandling on the streets, they will walk by you as if you don't exist. If you are a rich person wearing a 3 piece suit, coming out of a limo to go to Del Frisco's, and if you so happen to block the sidewalks, they will cuss you out. That is NYC, no one's gives a crap about anyone else.
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As true as that is, I have to say I love NYC! Yes, people can be rude, yes they are direct, but I love it because it’s 100% real. It’s authentic- they’ll tell you like it is.

On the other hand, beneath the hard exterior, many New Yorkers are some of the most genuine people I’ve ever met. And most are actually quite nice. Maybe not friendly, but nice/good people.

Having lived in the N Dallas area for many years where everyone is “friendly” but not necessarily “nice” - there is a difference.
 
EJ3 said:
H'mm I worked for Porsche for about 5 years, they are quite reliable IF you do the maintenance as specified. I also owned Toyota, by way of Lexus, they are more forgiving if you do not keep up with the maintenance. But the Lexus had to be modified to handle well (different struts, tires, anti-sway bars, etc. Yep, they have more boot space but, how much do you need for 2 people? Actually, based on what you could fit into it, my Honda Fit was the top. It to required different suspension and some engine mods to make it able to get out of the way of people (which happened to also increase the fuel economy). But, again, it went down in value drastically. Toyota and Honda's values don't drop of a cliff like some but they are not likely to appreciate in 4 or 10 years.
And Casio and Patek Philippe comparison, which one will is more likely to increase in value or decrease in value?
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I just informally looked up the difference in prices between Casio and Patel Philippe watches…their only similarities are
that you wear them on your wrist and hopefully allow one to keep track of time.
 
wadude said:
I just informally looked up the difference in prices between Casio and Patel Philippe watches…their only similarities are
that you wear them on your wrist and hopefully allow one to keep track of time.
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I would also say that one is an investment and the other (which likely keeps better time): is not
 
wadude said:
I just informally looked up the difference in prices between Casio and Patel Philippe watches…their only similarities are
that you wear them on your wrist and hopefully allow one to keep track of time.
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Couldn’t you say this about almost anything and everything?

I can go to Harvard or UT Austin. I looked up the difference in cost between Harvard and UT. The only difference is the name on the diploma…

What’s your point?
 
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Groove01 said:
As true as that is, I have to say I love NYC! Yes, people can be rude, yes they are direct, but I love it because it’s 100% real. It’s authentic- they’ll tell you like it is.

On the other hand, beneath the hard exterior, many New Yorkers are some of the most genuine people I’ve ever met. And most are actually quite nice. Maybe not friendly, but nice/good people.

Having lived in the N Dallas area for many years where everyone is “friendly” but not necessarily nice - there is a difference.
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I whole-heartedly agree. But I also have to say that I met some great people in Dallas as well, some I would love to be neighbors with.

I think the gist of it is, there is always snobby people anywhere and everywhere if you look for them, if you are overly sensitive or if you have some self-esteem issues.

My wife and I were in the market for a new home, when we showed up to an open house, I was in a t-shirt, basketball shorts and sneakers with cowlicks, my wife was in sweatpants. Yes, the seller's real estate agent did take a quick up and down scan at us, but did it bother us? No, because we are confident of ourselves and we have self-esteem.

It appears that the OP started this thread to vent, perhaps he had a bad experience with one snobby person, but then it quickly turned into if you own anything that is more than the bare minimum then you are a shallow and snobby person and that you only brought it to show off or to brag. I mean, these folks think a little too highly of themselves, what is so special about them that other people need to impress them?

All of this is just silly talk and unnecessary burden to be carrying.
 
PristineSound said:
I whole-heartedly agree. But I also have to say that I met some great people in Dallas as well, some I would love to be neighbors with.

I think the gist of it is, there is always snobby people anywhere and everywhere if you look for them, if you are overly sensitive or if you have some self-esteem issues.

My wife and I were in the market for a new home, when we showed up to an open house, I was in a t-shirt, basketball shorts and sneakers with cowlicks, my wife was in sweatpants. Yes, the seller's real estate agent did take a quick up and down scan at us, but did it bother us? No, because we are confident of ourselves and we have self-esteem.

It appears that the OP started this thread to vent, perhaps he had a bad experience with one snobby person, but then it quickly turned into if you own anything that is more than the bare minimum then you are a shallow and snobby person and that you only brought it to show off or to brag. I mean, these folks think a little too highly of themselves, what is so special about them that other people need to impress them?

All of this is just silly talk and unnecessary burden to be carrying.
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When I show up somewhere, it is not to impress or be impressed.
It's because I want to be entertained: Let the Clown Show Begin!
 
Groove01 said:
Couldn’t you say this about almost anything and everything?

I can go to Harvard or UT Austin. I looked up the difference in cost between Harvard and UT. The only difference is the name on the diploma…

What’s your point?
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Maybe the same as yours? That the name on a diploma and/or the watch on a wrist and/or the car one drives may not be of greater functional value than the other, although that depends on the function one is seeking from each product. I do draw the line at $30k DACs!
 
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