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Snobbery in Hi-Fi. Why are people so stupid and turn their noses up at gear costing much less which is just as good?

There is a bike for most any application. Some of mine over the years A10 Road Rocket BSA, also an A10 Golden Flash, Rocket 3, BMW R75/5, CB360T, CT110, CB750 4, Hurricane 750, CBR1000RR, CBX 1000, BMW K1RS, Duc 900SS, HD VRSCA. My favorite 2 wheeled vehicle? Orbea OIZ Ltd mountain bike (not ebike).

That's it back to audio........
 
There is a bike for most any application. Some of mine over the years A10 Road Rocket BSA, also an A10 Golden Flash, Rocket 3, BMW R75/5, CB360T, CT110, CB750 4, Hurricane 750, CBR1000RR, CBX 1000, BMW K1RS, Duc 900SS, HD VRSCA. My favorite 2 wheeled vehicle? Orbea OIZ Ltd mountain bike (not ebike).

That's it back to audio........

That six cylinder CBX used to be my poppeyed dream bike as a young fellow.

Ended up with GPZ 750.

Still wonderful though.
 
There are a ton of tiny dicked wankers round my way with those massively over loud exhausts.

Odd thought. They have small, grandma cars for the most part.

And they insist on revving the knackers off them in first gear to be even noisier.

They never realise that written all over them in day glo are the words;

‘inadequate, button knobbed, simple TWAT’.
OK one more car related, funny thing I’ve noticed over the years: fancy‑looking cars seem to trigger an allergic reaction in Civics and a good chunk of BMW ‘M’ cars. Get on the local highway in the R8, cruising maybe 3 mph over the limit just enjoying the engineering… and suddenly a swarm of souped‑up Hondas and Ms materializes like you stepped on a beehive. They circle, rev, try to bait you into doing something stupid.

What’s even funnier is that when you actually park, most of those same drivers are friendly, respectful, and love talking performance. Totally different vibe face‑to‑face.

On Saturday out for anniversary dinner with the missus, there was a green Bugatti parked on the street couple of spots behind me, as a car lover i came to look at the car (drool) and the driver (owner?) was a total arse. Very young musician look.
 
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That six cylinder CBX used to be my poppeyed dream bike as a young fellow.

Ended up with GPZ 750.

Still wonderful though.
She was heavy. GPZ nice! that bike made extraordinary HP for a 750cc. Early 80's?
 
She was heavy. GPZ nice! that bike made extraordinary HP for a 750cc. Early 80's?

I can only imagine. What a fine beast.

No I got my GPZ, used, around 91 or 92. I was living on the south coast of England then.

Tons of winding, very bendy roads in wonderful countryside.

Ah… to be young.

And less brittle.
 
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I can only imagine. What a fine beast.

No I got my GPZ, used, around 91 or 92. I was living on the south coast of England then.

Tons of winding, very bendy roads in wonderful countryside.

Ah… to be young.

And less brittle.
When I lived (for a couple of seasons) in West Sussex in the early 2002's, I had a custom VRod and my daily driver was a Tuscan S. I loved riding/driving to the Fountain (Ashurst?), great people, great pub food and cool vehicles!
 
The intercom system that in my parents house that they designed and built in 1964 is a good example: it runs on tubes (not a transistor system). I cannot seem to find anyone with a tube tester, much less the tubes for it these days.
I (and or) my friends could easily repair it, IF we could get the things needed to do so.
Far easier to repair (i.e., to source parts) for vacuum tube audio than modern audio. E.g., the 2A3 power triode has been in continuous production since it was introduced in the early 1930s. Similarly the 6SN7, 12AX7, and other common audio/hifi tubes have never gone out of production. EDIT: people say it's because of the musical instrument amp market, but it's more subtle than that. I don't think you'll ever find a guitar or harp amp rockin' a 2A3 direct-heated triode. ;)

"We" tend to eschew obsolescence. :)

As to a tube tester... I mean... I have one, but that doesn't help much. They're of somewhat limited usefulness, anyway. The best test of a tube is in situ (in the circuit for which you wish to use it).

Could well not be a tube, though. They certainly can fail catastrophically (e.g., power output tubes and HV rectifiers) but it's not terribly common (at least with small signal tubes). Rectifiers in that intercom are probably solid state. Power tube is probably something like a 6AQ5 (single ended or two for push-pull). Danged rugged and cheap tubes even today.
I presume the intercom is a NuTone. They were the sine qua non for house intercoms.
What does it do, or not do?
Feel free to send me a PM and we can troubleshoot by wire. ;)
PS if you have a chassis number, send it to me and I'll see if it's in Sams. If so -- I probably have the schematic. :)
 
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No issue with anyone buying what they want. I do however have issue with noise pollution from folks showing off their cars or weaving in and out of traffic at over 100 miles an hour. Seen this many times on Garden State Parkway in NJ . Your loud expensive stereo in your home is a non issue. Enjoy it
I regularly try to avoid the NJ Garden State Parkway as much as possible! I wish it was more like the NJ / NY Palisades Parkway which is far more scenic, has less traffic and is toll free!
 
Interestingly (or not), guitar players prefer valve/tube amps, for the obvious reasons of the distortion you get when over-driven. Increasingly though, with very cheap digital modelling available, many are going for much cheaper class-D FRFR amps, and are quite happy. The valve/tube fans don't always realize that 90% of valve amps are essentially the same reference design, going back to RCA in the 40s or 50's. Differences are mostly down to how much overdrive is forced, and the implementation of tone control stages, but what both the valve and FRFR users are finding out is that by far the greatest variation in what they call "tone" is from the speakers they choose. Or maybe tone is just from fingers/tone wood/magic chilli sauce/leprechauns. Point is that there is a huge parallel to HiFi fans over the same myths and magic - you'd be surprised how often a blind test will floor the guitar crowd, even when (especially when?) there is a 20x difference in prices.
 
I regularly try to avoid the NJ Garden State Parkway as much as possible! I wish it was more like the NJ / NY Palisades Parkway which is far more scenic, has less traffic and is toll free!
We used to use the Garden State Pky to get from the Tpk to the NY Thruway (87/287) to go across the Tappan Zee bridge (EDIT excuse me! I meant, of course, the Mario Cuomo Bridge! ;)). A neighbor of ours in MA strongly recommended switching to the Palisades Pkwy, and it cut 1/2 hour off of our trip from MD to MA (or, now, NH). The only problem with the Palisades Pkwy is that the constabulary (two states' worth) is a common presence and takes the 55 (used to be 50) mph speed limit rather seriously. ;)

EDIT: Irrelevant, whiny aside. :p
We've been doing what I call the "Mid-Atlantic Slog" for well over 40 years! :eek: Mrs. H and I met at Hopkins, but her parents had retired to NH, so she, and later we, would schlepp back and forth several times a year. Later, we moved to MA, but both of our kids went to college in the DC/MD area. More schlepping. Now, we and our daughter and her family all live in NH... but our son, his wife, and their cats live in NoVA. MORE schlepping. Fated to do it for life, methinks. ;)
 
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View attachment 524686Some of our most enjoyable music evenings are spent here on the deck, some OLD and cheap second hand gear, good wine for the lady, good whiskey for me, radio on, 3 dogs for company.
Great way to finish a busy day and high fidelity be damned.
Wow nice looking wooden furniture(futons, table,and seat from cowboy movies).
Your girlfriend really has taste, you lucky guy.
And is that a candle on the speakers? :eek:
 
I thought you said he is a motorcycle fan? :p
a two wheeled vehicle that can be ridden, that has the ability to be steered and brake while riding, usually self-propelled by some semblance of an engine (and possibly a gearbox) or a motor is all that is needed to qualify as a motorcycle.
Naturally, some are better at it (both the motorcycles and the riders) than others.
 
That six cylinder CBX used to be my poppeyed dream bike as a young fellow.

Ended up with GPZ 750.

Still wonderful though.
The 6 cylinder Benelli Sei did it first (and sang that wonderful 6 cylinder tune first [in 1973]). I had already become a street legal rider (at 15 years old) and had already ridden a 1972 CB Honda CB750, but the Benelli was my street bike dream in 1973. But, even back then, I preferred the ability to leave the roadway and go adventuring on motorcycles (and still do).
Back to the analog music to my ears of my youth:
 
Far easier to repair (i.e., to source parts) for vacuum tube audio than modern audio. E.g., the 2A3 power triode has been in continuous production since it was introduced in the early 1930s. Similarly the 6SN7, 12AX7, and other common audio/hifi tubes have never gone out of production. EDIT: people say it's because of the musical instrument amp market, but it's more subtle than that. I don't think you'll ever find a guitar or harp amp rockin' a 2A3 direct-heated triode. ;)

"We" tend to eschew obsolescence. :)

As to a tube tester... I mean... I have one, but that doesn't help much. They're of somewhat limited usefulness, anyway. The best test of a tube is in situ (in the circuit for which you wish to use it).

Could well not be a tube, though. They certainly can fail catastrophically (e.g., power output tubes and HV rectifiers) but it's not terribly common (at least with small signal tubes). Rectifiers in that intercom are probably solid state. Power tube is probably something like a 6AQ5 (single ended or two for push-pull). Danged rugged and cheap tubes even today.
I presume the intercom is a NuTone. They were the sine qua non for house intercoms.
What does it do, or not do?
Feel free to send me a PM and we can troubleshoot by wire. ;)
PS if you have a chassis number, send it to me and I'll see if it's in Sams. If so -- I probably have the schematic. :)
I'll see when I have the time to pull it out of my mothers wall (in a week or so, between Dr. appointments [my own, my wife's and my 92 year old mother's]) and PM you with what info I can glean from it. Thank you so much.
 
Interestingly (or not), guitar players prefer valve/tube amps, for the obvious reasons of the distortion you get when over-driven. Increasingly though, with very cheap digital modelling available, many are going for much cheaper class-D FRFR amps, and are quite happy. The valve/tube fans don't always realize that 90% of valve amps are essentially the same reference design, going back to RCA in the 40s or 50's. Differences are mostly down to how much overdrive is forced, and the implementation of tone control stages, but what both the valve and FRFR users are finding out is that by far the greatest variation in what they call "tone" is from the speakers they choose. Or maybe tone is just from fingers/tone wood/magic chilli sauce/leprechauns. Point is that there is a huge parallel to HiFi fans over the same myths and magic - you'd be surprised how often a blind test will floor the guitar crowd, even when (especially when?) there is a 20x difference in prices.
I definitely fell for the tube amp myth. It was a pain lugging a 30kg unit around, when a small box would’ve sufficed and have better functionality.
I sold my amp eventually, and when I do play these days it’s always through an amp modeller into headphones.
 
a two wheeled vehicle that can be ridden, that has the ability to be steered and brake while riding, usually self-propelled by some semblance of an engine (and possibly a gearbox) or a motor is all that is needed to qualify as a motorcycle.

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Motorcycle.

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More motorcycles.
 
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