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DonR said:
I keep mine with me at all times. Sleep with it under my pillow at night.
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You’re doing it wrong. You’re supposed to hold it up on a stick, like an effigy of the Virgin Mary, and use it shoo away the unworthy. Or to whack it over the head of those who won’t believe what you say.

At least that’s how I would use mine, if I could remember where the hell I put it…
 
theREALdotnet said:
Probable? Maybe. Possible? Definitely, we’re talking 30+ years.
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I keep mine in a box under the bed. Also 30+ years ago and no Matlab and no Computer Algebra Systems. Young whippersnappers today not needing to write their own matrix libraries and not having to use reams of fan fold paper and pencil and eraser to do z-transform algebra with bonkers huge expansions. And writing your own HP pen plotter routines if you wanted to graph anything. Get off my lawn!
 
Danny at GR Reasearch just posted a video today saying cable risers make a difference in the sound...
 
Their blurb says these work so they must work.After all they have spent hour and years (they can't make up their mind which so put both in) of research.Product survey showed that most audiofools with too much money will soon part with the cash for these.Remember not snake oil,they say so.

"These devices are not voodoo or snake oil. There has been hours and years of research and development to bring a device that is as necessary as a preamplifier to market"

"On receipt of your first SGS model, we recommend, unpacking and placing the device near your ancillaries. Starting with connecting the supplied cable to a spare RCA terminal on your DAC/ Streamer etc via the pure copper laboratory clip. This would be a signal ground connection. After a few hours or days of listening to allow the device to acclimatise, you can disconnect from the RCA and try connecting to the chassis of the chosen ancillary either directly via the laboratory clip or by unscrewing a chassis screw slightly so you are able to clip over the head of the screw."

luxaudio.com.au

SGS Pinnacle 8 Zebrano ⋆ Lux Audio

Top End Game Grounding
luxaudio.com.au luxaudio.com.au
 
noiseangel said:
Their blurb says these work so they must work.After all they have spent hour and years (they can't make up their mind which so put both in) of research.Product survey showed that most audiofools with too much money will soon part with the cash for these.Remember not snake oil,they say so.

"These devices are not voodoo or snake oil. There has been hours and years of research and development to bring a device that is as necessary as a preamplifier to market"

"On receipt of your first SGS model, we recommend, unpacking and placing the device near your ancillaries. Starting with connecting the supplied cable to a spare RCA terminal on your DAC/ Streamer etc via the pure copper laboratory clip. This would be a signal ground connection. After a few hours or days of listening to allow the device to acclimatise, you can disconnect from the RCA and try connecting to the chassis of the chosen ancillary either directly via the laboratory clip or by unscrewing a chassis screw slightly so you are able to clip over the head of the screw."

luxaudio.com.au

SGS Pinnacle 8 Zebrano ⋆ Lux Audio

Top End Game Grounding
luxaudio.com.au luxaudio.com.au
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Oi Bruce! That a box of rocks you got there?
 
Not sure if these have made it in to the thread. I was just reading Stereophile's first Axpona 2022 show report. In listing the cable price
for this two channel set up I stumbled over "Transparent Opus cabling ($190,000)."

Choke.

I had to read it 3 times to make sure it was correct.

Turns out, yeah, pretty expensive:

www.transparentcable.com

OPUS Speaker Cable

OPUS Speaker Cable is a great addition to any Upgraded Connoisseur Level music or film system. It works well with other TRANSCENDENT Transparent System Companions to create a solid and refined foundation with extended control and resolution at the frequency extremes and with the ability to...
www.transparentcable.com

But, hey, look at them. You can see why? Right?

*(I know I should have some equanimity about this, given all the time I've been in this hobby, but I have to admit when I see prices like that I get involuntarily angry. Like my blood starts to boil at the sheer level of cynism and hutzpah of these manufacturers. It's like we are watching a mutually agreed upon dare among cable manufacturers as to who can sell for the most money until somebody actually wises up and calls their bluffs. Looks like they will always find a mark in the crowd).
 
Oh, this deserves a mention too:

www.lessloss.com

LessLoss Blackbody - Optimize Your Audio Space with Ambient Field Conditioning

Transform your listening environment with the LessLoss Blackbody, an ambient field conditioner designed to refine your audio space. By altering electromagnetic interactions, it enhances sound quality, depth, and realism, offering a pristine listening experience for audiophiles and music...
www.lessloss.com www.lessloss.com
 
VMAT4 said:
Let's try to get back on topic. Is this snake oil or worth the price?
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Well it seems to be free - so almost certainly worth at least what you pay for it.
 
MattHooper said:
Not sure if these have made it in to the thread. I was just reading Stereophile's first Axpona 2022 show report. In listing the cable price
for this two channel set up I stumbled over "Transparent Opus cabling ($190,000)."
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Every time I see crazy expensive speaker cables, I wonder why passive speakers are still a thing. If it takes nearly $200000 to make the remote connection between speakers and amplifiers tolerable, combining the two saves you a hell of a lot of money :p
 
Killingbeans said:
Every time I see crazy expensive speaker cables, I wonder why passive speakers are still a thing. If it takes nearly $200000 to make the remote connection between speakers and amplifiers tolerable, combining the two saves you a hell of a lot of money :p
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In our domestic market, the brainwashing is that to make an active speaker, you need piles of amplifier boxes, another box with the active crossover, in the case of Naim separates, another pile of power supply boxes (really good marketing that, adding ever bigger and more power supplies in external boxes to make more money) and of course racking furniture at several hundred quid a tier to put it all in. Our local audio 'salon' sells a UK active 'high end' system at £120k plus once you've added it all up (this from the maker's mid tier products and speakers which proudly boast I gather, that they were designed purely by ear!) which to me is comprehensively beaten by active ATC's at under twenty grand (which themselves are challenged by favourites here at under that price).. ATC appear to have a lucrative market for their three way passives in ever more fancy cabinet finishes as the genuinely far superior active models are so boring and un-tweakable. In times of survival, ATC have to do what is asked of them, something their founder would have resisted as much as possible I feel from old acquaintance.

My old friend and dealer tells me he hasn't been asked about active systems for many years, the interest just isn't there! There's just no real knowledge as regards simple all-in-one active speakers outside of Meridian and B&O here I feel. The 'prosumer' models tested by Amir and Erin just look too ugly at the lower end (not many have wood finish and grilles).

Nah, the 'better quality audio industry here is more willy waving in ignorance than anything else. Over 'your way' it may be flash front panels adorned with meters but here, it's 'acres' of now matte black boxes in expensive 'fraim' shelving at several hundred quid a tier (not sure where Linn active systems come these days as they seem to chasing more a B&O lifestyle market now, B&O seemingly light years ahead in terms of real tech and sound quality 'in room' I now realise).

Q Acoustics have what could be a serious good looking and based on their passive models, a good sounding/performing active for not too much money.

I suspect the separates market will fade away with us oldies and the remaining interest will be in used gear as it is now, the price of used separates all but killing the mid level market off over here...
 
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