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What about the headphone output? It's good? Can drive a HD 660S?
Most cheap DVD players don't have one or all of:Why would anyone get one of these, when a $29 DVD player with digital output to a DAC would do exactly y the same thing.
Yes, it’s an indulgence but I had to come up with a birthday present and it came along at the right time. lol.Why would anyone get one of these, when a $29 DVD player with digital output to a DAC would do exactly y the same thing.
Yes, that’s a common take. I quite liked it from the beginning and haven’t changed my mind. It will be interesting to see it in reality.Graphic on front plate is... ugly, to say at least.
Especially quiet operation can be difficult to findMost cheap DVD players don't have one or all of:
- Decent DAC
- External controls / display
- Quiet operation
- Play CD audio without gaps (TBC if this does)
- Apply de-emphasis on pre-emphasis CD audio (TBC if this does)
It's a bit cheaper from places like Hifigo and schenzenaudio, but of course warranties are easier through Amazon€120 is not much, I wonder if it is worth using it only as a mechanical device or if, as written above, any €30 DVD player is more than enough.
What, I said with an external DAC 1 is out, for $29 maybe no controls, but for $89 or used you can find plenty with, Quiete operation, really? Gaps, I guess it would work for the 0.01% of disks where that makes sense, I give you that one, De emphasis? Enlighten me as this is the first time I hear such a thing. Keeping in mind that CD only has to do one thing, extract the file from a spinning disc this is somewhat overpriced. I rather buy a used one or a DVD Player and use the leftover $ for CDs.Most cheap DVD players don't have one or all of:
- Decent DAC
- External controls / display
- Quiet operation
- Play CD audio without gaps (TBC if this does)
- Apply de-emphasis on pre-emphasis CD audio (TBC if this does)
Quiet? I get that you want what you want, but my Sony BlueRay is quite silent.It's a bit cheaper from places like Hifigo and schenzenaudio, but of course warranties are easier through Amazon
I had to buy 7 different players previously to find a quiet DVD player. The reason I got the SMSL anyway is just to save space, and it's likely more energiefficient
Well, I've read quite a bit online and found that X800 model from Sony is quiet, but far from all models are.Quiet? I get that you want what you want, but my Sony BlueRay is quite silent.
That’s good. Mine is a Sony BDP S1500 and it would be quiet enough for watching movies but disc spinning can be faintly audible between tracks. The rest of the chain is silent. Will the SMSL be better? Perhaps and I hope so.Quiet? I get that you want what you want, but my Sony BlueRay is quite silent.
Maybe they have already released a better looking version with USB input called PL200Especially quiet operation can be difficult to find
The DAC inside this should do fine as well, but I connected it directly to my SMSL DAC anyway
I hope they make a new version one day with USB input and better looks
Ridiculously overpricedMaybe they have already released a better looking version with USB input called PL200
I've tried cheap DVD players but the mechanical operation noise has been too distracting to enjoy.Quiete operation, really?
I have quite a few CDs containing audio which flows from one track to another. Unnecessary gaps in playback destroys the listening experience for them as unnecessary silence interrupts the music flow. Also, while the gaps are silent, the player creates more mechanical sounds as the laser resets to change tracks. Pink Floyd DSOTM and The Wall are good examples, but there are plenty of others. It's very common in live and orchestral music albums.Gaps, I guess it would work for the 0.01% of disks where that makes sense, I give you that one
It was used in the early 80's as a way of noise reduction technique. It was implemented on a number of albums in the 80's but is not used nowadays. Still, as part of the Redbook standard, all CD players *should* support it but many don't. It should also be implemented in DACs, but many don't., De emphasis? Enlighten me as this is the first time I hear such a thing.
Yes you may be able to find a good quality and good condition DVD player which meets your requirements for cheaper. I've been lucky to find an early 2000's era Pioneer DV-686A new in box that does all the above (although I don't use the DAC). You never know how much life they have in them though as the components fail with age and use, so it's great to have a well-priced current option. I need one to replace a Sony Blu-ray player which doesn't have an inbuilt display.Keeping in mind that CD only has to do one thing, extract the file from a spinning disc this is somewhat overpriced. I rather buy a used one or a DVD Player and use the leftover $ for CDs.
All good but I am willing to say you are in an exclusive group smaller than 1/2 of a % of audio gear consumers.I've tried cheap DVD players but the mechanical operation noise has been too distracting to enjoy.
I have quite a few CDs containing audio which flows from one track to another. Unnecessary gaps in playback destroys the listening experience for them as unnecessary silence interrupts the music flow. Also, while the gaps are silent, the player creates more mechanical sounds as the laser resets to change tracks. Pink Floyd DSOTM and The Wall are good examples, but there are plenty of others. It's very common in live and orchestral music albums.
Aside from the annoyance, introducing gaps in CD audio doesn't conform to the Redbook audio standard and means the players are essentially broken out of the box. It *shouldn't happen*, but it does because modern cheap DVD players read the CD audio as Track-At-Once (TAO) like a CD-ROM.
It was used in the early 80's as a way of noise reduction technique. It was implemented on a number of albums in the 80's but is not used nowadays. Still, as part of the Redbook standard, all CD players *should* support it but many don't. It should also be implemented in DACs, but many don't.
Read about it here:
Pre-emphasis - Hydrogenaudio Knowledgebase
wiki.hydrogenaud.io
Yes you may be able to find a good quality and good condition DVD player which meets your requirements for cheaper. I've been lucky to find an early 2000's era Pioneer DV-686A new in box that does all the above (although I don't use the DAC). You never know how much life they have in them though as the components fail with age and use, so it's great to have a well-priced current option. I need one to replace a Sony Blu-ray player which doesn't have an inbuilt display.
In addition to the other requirements, I'd also like it to support HDCD. I'd much rather HDCD support than MQA.
Agree, but you could probably say that about most people on ASR. It's a niche market that SMSL is catering to here.All good but I am willing to say you are in an exclusive group smaller than 1/2 of a % of audio gear consumers.
Yep, I have to remind myself that a lot of people don't listen to classical music. If your diet is pop and dance music then gapless playback probably doesn't count for much. If your diet includes motets, cantatas, trio concerti or baroque opera there is a good chance that artificial gaps between tracks could be annoying.I've tried cheap DVD players but the mechanical operation noise has been too distracting to enjoy.
I have quite a few CDs containing audio which flows from one track to another. Unnecessary gaps in playback destroys the listening experience for them as unnecessary silence interrupts the music flow. Also, while the gaps are silent, the player creates more mechanical sounds as the laser resets to change tracks. Pink Floyd DSOTM and The Wall are good examples, but there are plenty of others. It's very common in live and orchestral music albums.
Aside from the annoyance, introducing gaps in CD audio doesn't conform to the Redbook audio standard and means the players are essentially broken out of the box. It *shouldn't happen*, but it does because modern cheap DVD players read the CD audio as Track-At-Once (TAO) like a CD-ROM.
It was used in the early 80's as a way of noise reduction technique. It was implemented on a number of albums in the 80's but is not used nowadays. Still, as part of the Redbook standard, all CD players *should* support it but many don't. It should also be implemented in DACs, but many don't.
Read about it here:
Pre-emphasis - Hydrogenaudio Knowledgebase
wiki.hydrogenaud.io
Yes you may be able to find a good quality and good condition DVD player which meets your requirements for cheaper. I've been lucky to find an early 2000's era Pioneer DV-686A new in box that does all the above (although I don't use the DAC). You never know how much life they have in them though as the components fail with age and use, so it's great to have a well-priced current option. I need one to replace a Sony Blu-ray player which doesn't have an inbuilt display.
In addition to the other requirements, I'd also like it to support HDCD. I'd much rather HDCD support than MQA.