sealman
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I wondered the same!pun intended?
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I wondered the same!pun intended?
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Not speaking for anyone else but for ME what make the RME better are:
PEQ
Excellent automatic loudness feature
Very good headphone amp
A LOT of features and flexibility (actually this is a double-edged sword as the manual is huge and daunting and the menus aren't very intuitive but you can do a lot)
Proven track record of support both in servicing and software updates even for older models
Very high quality construction
Just send in an expensive “ boutique” DAC and you get what you are looking for..
Yes. Come on audiophile brands, show us something!Boring. I want to see a bad measuring DAC again, it’s been too long.
That is their strategy. Something for everyone. Fill or double fill or triple fill every price racket with products with so much overlap, because why not. If average Joe 1 buy something for 300 then average Joe 2 could buy something almost identical in features and performance for 350. And we will have new versions of both in 6 months so they can upgradethe usual excellent Dac from SMSL….
I counted 41 on their website. Who knows if in addition to the SINAD record they want to make the record of devices on sale at the same time…
Can I say something? I would do a few less and start focusing on: assistance, manuals, “soul” of the brand, materials and construction….
in short the hardware is now excellent but these products lack that pinch of desirability that we enthusiasts often like….
don't get me wrong: I'm not looking for the boutique device that doesn't work, but I would like to see excellent devices like this, from an objective point of view, with a little more “personality”.
SMSL does not have an “iconic” product, which instead has WIIM, has Fosi, has Eversolo, has Topping….
thanks Amirm as always for the test and your time that you dedicate!
You mean an ice cream shop should only have 3 or 4 flavors?Apparently it works for them but we should not encourage it
Really bad analogy here amirYou mean an ice cream shop should only have 3 or 4 flavors?
This is more like the ice cream shop having 43 flavours but they’re all actually vanilla with different food colouringYou mean an ice cream shop should only have 3 or 4 flavors?
At 400-500€ more, I must admit the ADI-2 must start to look worth considering in comparison to this, for certain people.Anyone who buy this or more expensive SMSL/Topping/etc. DAC over RME is fooling themselves. Not worth chasing a few dB in SINAD in exchange for features/support/customer service that really matter
That is their strategy. Something for everyone. Fill or double fill or triple fill every price racket with products with so much overlap, because why not. If average Joe 1 buy something for 300 then average Joe 2 could buy something almost identical in features and performance for 350. And we will have new versions of both in 6 months so they can upgrade
Apparently it works for them but we should not encourage it
think, you made a list of some of the aspects that I like least about the world of modern commerce…..There are studies about the effect of assortment size and new are made all the time.
From 2022:
- Some categories like niche products (HiFi audio) react particularly well to large assortments.
- Online stores make large assortments easier to process with search and filter options.
- There are differences depending on the type of customer. Experts usually like more choice.
I'm sure it's a benefit for the manufacturer overall.
As I said really bad analogy on ice creams. Only if you come back one week later (if not tomorrow) to buy a new DAC. A freedom of choice is good for consumers, but only if the selections make sense.this strategy frankly leaves me with some doubts: - the first is that the value on the used market is generally low, since normally if you have one, as happened to me, and you want to sell it, you have to compete with the super offers that you find online on the new one, sold on sale after just a few months. - the second is subjective: it always seems like you are buying a device that is not definitive, but something that is born and is already old, because then you go and look and in the meantime other models have come out - the third is general: I don't think the market needs all these devices that are presented every week. I understand Amirm's speech on ice cream flavors: 4 flavors are few, but 41 are of no use to anyone... in our country we say few but good!!!
The chip is an ESS ES9039MSPRO.So what DAC chip does this have? Why is it called RAW?