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Wow this looks MUCH nicer than the toylike PL100! Too bad it also costs more for that better design and a remote (and "better sound" apparently).
Wow this looks MUCH nicer than the toylike PL100! Too bad it also costs more for that better design and a remote (and "better sound" apparently).
Both have remote controls. It's about 40 USD more..150 is quite a bit wider. 100 is more desktop size.Wow this looks MUCH nicer than the toylike PL100! Too bad it also costs more for that better design and a remote (and "better sound" apparently).
Both use CS431xx chips. That is the problem. You can see the bands around the fundamental in the multi-tone test which leads me to believe these both have the DRE problem. This problem has been shown to not be audibly transparent. I hope the reviewer starts to add an IMD vs. level sweep to future reviews.Both are likely transparent, maybe the new one is improved when it comes to jitter, the DAC is still CS but not the same chip.
Firmware update? Nothing on the SMSL site.I would say that updating the firmware to 1.1 was a major pain in the ass tho..
That does look good. Any differences internally?
SMSL are poor at updating their website. The 1.1 for this DAC was found in the PL100 topic... I upgraded after som help from a forum memberFirmware update? Nothing on the SMSL site.
if you have a link to that thread, I can give it a try. I guess you had to burn a CD with the firmware, right?SMSL are poor at updating their website. The 1.1 for this DAC was found in the PL100 topic... I upgraded after som help from a forum member
Firmware discussion starts from here: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...l100-cd-player-£110.59679/page-8#post-2255348if you have a link to that h’thread, I can give it a try.
I've run across a couple of CDs that make low-level scraping sounds while playing. I chalk that up to the disc being manufactured just a little out of tolerance.Thanks for the review. Had one of these for a couple of months now. It's been very good as a transport in my main system. Also occasional trips to the garden on battery power with headphones. The remote works good , drive is quiet in use (a couple of discs are noisy for some reason , unbalaced manufacture?). Overall very happy with it.
Thanks, I did like you recommended. I log here for potential future use:Firmware discussion starts from here: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/smsl-vmv-pl100-cd-player-£110.59679/page-8#post-2255348
)Out of curiosity, do you happen to know what the 1.1 firmware actually brings to the table? I’m wondering whether it introduces any meaningful improvements—like bug fixes, stability tweaks, or performance optimizations—or if it’s just minor under-the-hood changes. Would be good to know if it’s worth the hassle of upgrading or better to stick with the current version. Best,Why?
I would say that updating the firmware to 1.1 was a major pain in the ass tho..
No, no idea. I didn't notice any difference either.Out of curiosity, do you happen to know what the 1.1 firmware actually brings to the table? I’m wondering whether it introduces any meaningful improvements—like bug fixes, stability tweaks, or performance optimizations—or if it’s just minor under-the-hood changes. Would be good to know if it’s worth the hassle of upgrading or better to stick with the current version. Best,
If you had purchased PL150 you could have placed the DAC in the middle and the cd-player on the topNow i'm wondering if I should have bought the PL150! However, the PL150 is a bit wider and may not fit on my rack (the gap between the pillars is 205mm and the PL150 205mm wide).
I don’t know how to do that with REW and the CD player acting as the generator, since I can’t sync them.I hope the reviewer starts to add an IMD vs. level sweep to future reviews.
FYI, the PL100 was released in 2024. So I suspect that the timing was well before DRE problems were discovered.This is a great review as always.
It is unfortunate to see most devices with a DAC component these days, whether it is a pure DAC, DAC/HP combo, DAP, streamer, or CD player, keep adopting the Cirrus Logic CS431xx chip without modifying the chip's default DRE-related parameter settings. The reason for choosing CS431xx is obvious: high performance (when measured with a conventional measurement package) at low cost.
jkim was also able to demonstrate by running multitone at various volume levels, so maybe that is a possible solution.I don’t know how to do that with REW and the CD player acting as the generator, since I can’t sync them.
Yes it would be. It seems a Multitone at -20dB reveals the issue. I could easily include that.jkim was also able to demonstrate by running multitone at various volume levels, so maybe that is a possible solution.