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SMSL M400 & M200 new dacs!

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Do you get static with the USB disconnected?
 

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My M200 just arrived and it is dead silent even on max DAC-Volume + max AMP-Volume.
I still think there must be something off with your unit.

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It's sitting on my bedsite table.
 
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I also ordered it from the UK three days ago.
It still hasn't been shipped.
I pair it with the IFI ICAN PRO in balanced. We will see how it goes .....
 

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Apparently the SMSL M200 is just the SMSL M300 MkII in the form factor to match the SP200 and a little more expensive than the predecessor.
Doesn't look like it.

M200 is feature packed...now the question is how much do I value MQA. From what I have read, it doesn't seem like people care for full-unfolding.
 

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Doesn't look like it.

M200 is feature packed...now the question is how much do I value MQA. From what I have read, it doesn't seem like people care for full-unfolding.
Same question for me. Have never had a proper DAC with MQA decoding. Curious to see whether there's a benefit but the price difference between the D90 MQA/M400 and the M200 is just too much... There are others but I like those two's form factor to stack with my SP200.
 

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My M200 just arrived and it is dead silent even on max DAC-Volume + max AMP-Volume.
I still think there must be something off with your unit.
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Hi Forsaked, then the sound is good?

Someone wrote that on the SMSL M400 the volume seemed a little loose and plastic, what do you think the volume button?
 

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It's a huge improvement from my setup before, i really like the M200 + SP200 combo.
I have the M200 no the M400 but yes, like on the SP200 the knob is plastic but not loose, a metal knob would have been better.
 

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no we still have no reviews on the m400 but from the first arrivals i seem to understand that the build quality is not excellent. for 750 € you can choose better.
We will see the following ....
 

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There are now reviews for both, the M200 and M400.
And if you look at the new paired Topping D90 + A90, which both measured excellent, SMSL needs to deliver something equal or better to be competetive at this price point.
 

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no we still have no reviews on the m400 but from the first arrivals i seem to understand that the build quality is not excellent. for 750 € you can choose better.

Where ?

M400.

Better looking than I expected, very nice fit and finish.
No cover artwork on the OLED screen - it's audio not AV. (artwork is on my laptop which is bigger and better)
Sound quality - still burning in but initial thoughts are awesome.

If Amir's measures are close to the factory tested ones it should top the SINAD chart.
 

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I cant reach it from where I'm sat so the remote control is a big plus.

I asked the question out of curiosity. I don't mind, because I use a Yatse application on my cell phone Android for OSMC Raspebery Pi (XBMC, Kodi).
 

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no we still have no reviews on the m400 but from the first arrivals i seem to understand that the build quality is not excellent. for 750 € you can choose better.
We will see the following ....

Amir will have a review on M400 this week.
 

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Hello Mandy,
I have no noise, I did not receive my DAC. :)

It's not me!!
 

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I get more and worse static with USB connected on m200. But I get background noise no mather what if I put max volume on sp200, when the computer sends a sound signal, that shouldn't be the case? I'm not super experienced with external dac / amp setups, but it feels wrong getting noise

Daemon85 DAC has a problem.
 
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