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test data is a first sieve as it sorts the field of devices - I'd rather have it than not... ... call me a sheep? - fine with me...
It's a feature of the new 9039 series, yes you are right.I imagine it is either feature of the ESS DAC chip used or is kludged somehow to go into that mode. Someone less lazy than me needs to dig into the datasheet assuming it is public.
I have not tried to deal directly with SMSL however my experience with Aoshida Audio has been entirely positive.These DACs may knock it out of the park on tests, but from what I gather people shouldn't expect too much in terms of customer or warranty service.
It's nowhere near as bad as Apos. I think if you buy SMSL from Shenzen or Aoshida you'll be fine. There's a thread here about Apos. I hope they've fixed their issues, but from everything I've seen (and indirectly experienced) it was real bad for a while.Have not tried to deal directly with SMSL however my experience with Aoshida Audio has been entirely positive.
I've never had issues with Apos, but haven't needed significant warranty/replacement work from them...yet.It's nowhere near as bad as Apos. I think if you buy SMSL from Shenzen or Aoshida you'll be fine. There's a thread here about Apos. I hope they've fixed their issues, but from everything I've seen (and indirectly experienced) it was real bad for a while.
SU-10While it looks good I am not sure what the purpose of it is... I would like to see some DAC's with DSP and other such stuff. I don't really care about more top SINAD figures when those can be had on much cheaper products... what is the purpose of this product? It doesn't sound different to anything else released in the last 2 years from any of these companies...
Things like DSP would actually make sense as a next step. Other things like eARC (since they are using HDMI for i2S which is basically a dead interface anyway) would be more useful for TV's and such...
Support for Dolby Atmos? Just thinking off the top of my head here...
Or support for some let's say 10 band EQ, right? It would be very useful.While it looks good I am not sure what the purpose of it is... I would like to see some DAC's with DSP and other such stuff. I don't really care about more top SINAD figures when those can be had on much cheaper products... what is the purpose of this product? It doesn't sound different to anything else released in the last 2 years from any of these companies...
Things like DSP would actually make sense as a next step. Other things like eARC (since they are using HDMI for i2S which is basically a dead interface anyway) would be more useful for TV's and such...
Support for Dolby Atmos? Just thinking off the top of my head here...
How is the DO300 compared to SU-9 pro? What did you find?I just got it delivered today and it’s being used as a DAC for the Bluesound Node. Using the 5V….I think I finally found the one for at least a couple of years. Returned the su-9 pro.
Probably because both are using 11 op amps while the SU-10 is using 21.I can't imagine there is a sound difference between these two. Even SMSL doesn't suggest there is a performance difference between these two with all the specs and components basically identical. The DO300 does add a couple inputs so that might be a good reason to choose it, all other things being equal.
I mainly got the DO300 for the 2 additional inputs for minimal cost just in case I need them in the future.How is the DO300 compared to SU-9 pro? What did you find?
Yes, we can say the same for Topping.The marketing strategy of this company is a real dilemma. Why make 10 DACs in the range 150-1.500$? it just creates confusion in the clients head.
still worksSe eu usar este DAC para tocar um conjunto Edifier S360DB (ativo), o controle de volume (pré-amplificador) desativa o DAC ou ainda funciona? Atualmente uso um Topping D10S. Obrigado!
Sure would be cool to get a review of the SMSL DA-9......This is a review and detailed measurements of the SMSL DO300 balanced stereo USB DAC with Bluetooth. It was sent to me by the company and costs US $549 although I see it on sale for $490.
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The DO300 naturally follows the design language of other recent SMSL products. I like the colorful display and largish displayed volume level. Back panel doesn't provide any surprises:
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A minor nit: I like to see color codec RCA jacks with red indicating right channel. Looking from above, it is hard to know which channel is which. I like to see trigger support to sequence powering on downstream products as well.
SMSL DO300 DAC Measurements
As usual, let's start with our usual dashboard and XLR Output with volume set to default 0 dB (it goes up to 2 dB):
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You would think I would get used to such high SINAD (sum of noise and distortion) in products from SMSL but I still get a pleasant surprise when I see numbers north of 123 dB! This naturally lands in our (rather silly) top 20 best DACs ever tested rankings:
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RCA output shows the typical reduction in SINAD but still fully transparent:
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Volume control is dead on accurate so -30 dB is indeed, that level in output. Using that, I measured the effect of volume control on output SINAD:
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The glitches are instrumentation issues. Response naturally scales with output voltage.
IMD test shows no sign of "hump" despite use of ESS DAC:
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Multitone performance is exceptional of course:
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As is noise performance:
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Linearity is perfect as we would expect:
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Jitter is perfect over USB and essentially the same over Toslink:
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We have our usual suite of filters including "off:"
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I would personally use Fast Linear and be done with it. Note that "off" causes a large rise in output level so be careful when comparing that to other settings:
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It also has that screwed up frequency response so best left unused.
The excellent filter response translates to superb THD+N versus frequency:
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Conclusions
What can I say other than the DO300 being extremely well executed as we expect from SMSL. Yes, company produces many such DACs. It is not my job to sort through them. It is yours!
I am happy to put SMSL DO300 DAC on my recommended list.
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