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SMSL D1SE Balanced ES9038PRO

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Looks like a nice unit but those spikes are too nasty for me. :D
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I'd hang fire on buying any SMSL 9038PRO DAC for the time being......

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...ds/strange-smsl-m500-high-3rd-harmonic.22710/

TL:DR- in the M500 and the SU9 it looks like the harmonic distortion goes crazy in one channel when the signal is different in L and R . So perfect for mono:facepalm:

Audible issue? Maybe not- but not worth spending $000 on a perfect DAC that isnt actually perfect in real world conditions
 

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agh, MQA - that disqualifies it for me.

Why just the related VMV logo?

What's with the "fever" thing, why is that translation not sorted out? I mean it's years now, that I've been seeing it. I think I read an explanation but I can't remember. fever grade...of course Google is no help. ...High fidelity grade? Low noise grade? ...If I find the Chinese text, then I could see what translate.google does. ...

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agh, MQA - that disqualifies it for me.

Why just the related VMV logo?

What's with the "fever" thing, why is that translation not sorted out? I mean it's years now, that I've been seeing it. I think I read an explanation but I can't remember. fever grade...of course Google is no help. ...High fidelity grade? Low noise grade? ...If I find the Chinese text, then I could see what translate.google does. ...

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I can only imagine its a corruption of medical/ instrument grade?
 

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I have seen SMSL use the word "Porcupine" to describe the toroidal transformer.

I would much rather a Porcupine toroidal transformer than a "High-fidelity" or "Medical"/"Hospital grade" one.
 

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Why just the related VMV logo?

Regarding the logo, I think it looks odd. The font used reminds me of "Super hero" comic book text.

It would look much smarter if they just used the "A1"/"D1se" text below it, but in bold for VMV.
 
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I have seen SMSL use the word "Porcupine" to describe the toroidal transformer.

I would much rather a Porcupine toroidal transformer than a "High-fidelity" or "Medical"/"Hospital grade" one.
Porcupine is the direct Chinese translate for the Toroid International brand transformer. The logo resembles a porcupine and basically is the "audiophile" grade transformer in Chinese audiophile community.
 

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I'd hang fire on buying any SMSL 9038PRO DAC for the time being......

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...ds/strange-smsl-m500-high-3rd-harmonic.22710/

TL:DR- in the M500 and the SU9 it looks like the harmonic distortion goes crazy in one channel when the signal is different in L and R . So perfect for mono:facepalm:

Audible issue? Maybe not- but not worth spending $000 on a perfect DAC that isnt actually perfect in real world conditions

I would be very hesitant to purchase an expensive product from @SHENZHENAUDIO until they demonstrate that they will provide an acceptable level of support to customers that own SMSL products with issues:

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...nge-smsl-m500-high-3rd-harmonic.22710/page-33
 

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Expensive, this ain't Expensive, why we talking about Expensive, affordable should be the the word you're looking for lol

OK, perhaps I should have said "any" product ... irrespective of price.
 

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Porcupine is the direct Chinese translate for the Toroid International brand transformer. The logo resembles a porcupine and basically is the "audiophile" grade transformer in Chinese audiophile community.

Thank you for explaining.

I have recently found it (Shenzhen audio SMSL VMV A1 page image) and it does say "Imported Porcupine Power Transformer".
So I guess translates to: Imported Toroidal Power Transformer.
 

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Porcupine is the direct Chinese translate for the Toroid International brand transformer. The logo resembles a porcupine and basically is the "audiophile" grade transformer in Chinese audiophile community.
But is it fever porcupine? :D
 

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Thank you for explaining.

I have recently found it (Shenzhen audio SMSL VMV A1 page image) and it does say "Imported Porcupine Power Transformer".
So I guess translates to: Imported Toroidal Power Transformer.
It's specifically Toroid brand.
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? :) But what are you saying? If I translate "toroid" the result will be "porcupine"? :) ... :) Or they translate the logo, the picture, to a word? :D

The fever thing...they should just send the text to a translation service, a human translation. For sure there are individual/freelance people doing it.
 

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? :) But what are you saying? If I translate "toroid" the result will be "porcupine"? :) ... :) Or they translate the logo, the picture, to a word? :D

The fever thing...they should just send the text to a translation service, a human translation. For sure there are individual/freelance people doing it.
Maybe my wording is a bit off. Basically Chinese audiophile community call it "porcupine transformer" in Chinese because the logo is a porcupine.
 

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It's specifically Toroid brand. View attachment 133859

I understand now. So the red is “porcupine” brand logo.

So SMSL carried over the local marketing (customers are familiar with good Porcupine brand) and directly translated it to English marketing.
 
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