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Smartphones will kill off DSLR's soon/
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They used to have a 110 SLR, I had one with all of the lenses. A great piece of kit for the format.
It's the battle of digital processing vs optics.
Big glass combined with big sensors will have the purity advantage over small glass with digital processing every time. I haven't heard of astronomy observatories that plan on switching to smartphone cameras yet.
I like photography and my highly rated smartphone camera can't remotely do what I can do on a camera with good glass, especially if we talk about very low aperture lenses. And the next gen for SLR cameras is adding much better digital processing to them, on camera for those who are lazy - but the off camera tools are getting very user friendly {Photoshop has always been an overengineered monster).
Big glass combined with big sensors will have the purity advantage over small glass with digital processing every time. I haven't heard of astronomy observatories that plan on switching to smartphone cameras yet.
I like photography and my highly rated smartphone camera can't remotely do what I can do on a camera with good glass, especially if we talk about very low aperture lenses. And the next gen for SLR cameras is adding much better digital processing to them, on camera for those who are lazy - but the off camera tools are getting very user friendly {Photoshop has always been an overengineered monster).
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He's actually photographing a piece of artwork -- but we were at a hifi shindig.
He's an emulsion kinda guy.
Our son does some large format (4 x 5) film sometimes (not much any more) -- but he has, so far, drawn the line at 8 x 10.
MakeMineVinyl
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When I was in the Army at the Pentagon they had photos of some Generals lining some of the walls in my area and these were shot on 8x10 monochrome. The resolution I remember was almost too good to the point you could see the texture of the boogers in their nose.Our son does some large format (4 x 5) film sometimes (not much any more) -- but he has, so far, drawn the line at 8 x 10.
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I mean I have not owned a non- mobile phone camera for a decade, at least.
I think they killed the dedicated budget camera, a few years back. How many people do we see in public spaces using mobiles vs dedicated cameras.
It has opened up a different market though. The high end ilc market is on the up.
Phones nowadays offer excellent image quality and the convenience factor is much more appealing to most.
It has opened up a different market though. The high end ilc market is on the up.
Phones nowadays offer excellent image quality and the convenience factor is much more appealing to most.
8 years ago we already had cameras that were good enough for social media.
You forget that these cameras are mostly bought by people who like photography.
I fully agree with you. I too use 5120 x 1440 desktop area by dual EIZO FlexScan EV2750 monitors (i.e. 5120 x 1440 pixel, 120 x 33 cm desktop area), and I occasionally process high-resolution panoramic photos taken by my Canon EOS 5D Mark IV just like the one I shared in my post here.
I do hope it would be allowed sharing the photo again here;
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I checked this shot multiple times by now. From composition point of view its perfect, chosen focal lenght (relative to sensor) is great.
I am just tempted to try in post-edit to make shadow parts bit lighter just to see more on the shore and trees. That may come at high cost it it was taken in JPEG only, plus there is a ton of unknown parameters about the sensor/lens i would like to know. Like i know different lenses i own cause different types of distortion, blur, bokeh and i exchange them for creative reasons.
But again these are reasons why no phone in near future will replace my camera.
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Nikon discontinues its two least expensive DSLR's to focus R&D on mid and higher end models and video.
www.digitalcameraworld.com
Nikon will discontinue the D3500 and D5600 but you can still buy them for now
Focusing its effort on its mirrorless cameras and lenses, Nikon says it will stop production on the D3500 and D5600 DSLRs
When I got my iphone 12 18 months ago, I more or less stopped carrying my shorter lenses with my DSLR. The phone does pretty much all I need out to 50mm equivalent - and I can usually "zoom with my feet" for the gap from there to the bottom end of my "big" lens.
I'll use the DSLR with shorter prime lenses for "important" social photography, such as the informal wedding celebration shots I took a couple of weeks ago. That will probably be less necessary in a shortish time frame.
However, when I go out to "take pictures" which normally means nature shots, I strap my EM1X with 100-400 lens to my waist belt (200-800 equivalent). I'm not expecting a phone to be able to rival that for a little bit longer than the 2-4 year range, though I have little doubt they will eventually. When I can take this with a phone, will be the point at which I upgrade.
I'll use the DSLR with shorter prime lenses for "important" social photography, such as the informal wedding celebration shots I took a couple of weeks ago. That will probably be less necessary in a shortish time frame.
However, when I go out to "take pictures" which normally means nature shots, I strap my EM1X with 100-400 lens to my waist belt (200-800 equivalent). I'm not expecting a phone to be able to rival that for a little bit longer than the 2-4 year range, though I have little doubt they will eventually. When I can take this with a phone, will be the point at which I upgrade.
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I got myself E-PM2 which is smallest M43 body, simply to have a backup (can utilize all lenses, batteries and flash i have for EM10 and EM5MkIII). But thats it. For semi-serious work i will use M10 with one zoom lens, and for serious work M5 with set of lenses.
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Smartphones are ingenious app- / content-delivery devices, but they become obsolete fairly quickly, and older hardware loses major functionality as legacy cellular networks are shut down. So while a person can get by perfectly well with a decade-old camera, they will likely replace their mobile devices at least a couple of times in the same period of time.
Olympus, Yashica. Minolta & Rollei have already left the camera business or closed shop completely. Nikon is about to according to reports.
My only comment is, it is a snap-shot taken by a four generation old phone camera. We are debating it and you have been complementary even on the composition, which I thank you. What is the worth of a photograph if it doesn't convey the moment to the viewer?
Besides, the new version cameras does have the option to record in raw, hence you have room for some processing.
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headline of the article:
what the Sony guy actually said:
"we expect that still images [from smartphones] will exceed the image quality of single-lens reflex cameras within the next few years".
"still images are expected to exceed ILC [interchangeable lens camera] image quality" sometime during 2024.
When I get back to work Monday, I'll have a coworker translate the actual article from Japanese.
Smartphones will kill off the DSLR within three years says Sony
what the Sony guy actually said:
"we expect that still images [from smartphones] will exceed the image quality of single-lens reflex cameras within the next few years".
"still images are expected to exceed ILC [interchangeable lens camera] image quality" sometime during 2024.
When I get back to work Monday, I'll have a coworker translate the actual article from Japanese.
It is true, DSLRs probably are going away, to be replaced by mirrorless cameras.
petapixel.com
Off the top of my head the major manufacturers of cameras
Canon, Nikon, Pentax, Sony, Olympus, Panasonic, Fujifilm and Leica.
Only the first 3 even make DSLRs and the first 2 Canon are replacing them with Mirrorless. A while back Pentax Doubled down and basically said, no way we can go mirrorless. I am not sure what's in Leica's lineup, they still make film cameras right?
Nikon Plans to Basically Abandon DSLRs by 2025
Nikon is significantly de-emphasizing DSLRs over the next three years.
petapixel.com
Off the top of my head the major manufacturers of cameras
Canon, Nikon, Pentax, Sony, Olympus, Panasonic, Fujifilm and Leica.
Only the first 3 even make DSLRs and the first 2 Canon are replacing them with Mirrorless. A while back Pentax Doubled down and basically said, no way we can go mirrorless. I am not sure what's in Leica's lineup, they still make film cameras right?
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Olympus sold their camera manufacturing to OM Digital solutions. But basically its the same M43 and digital technology.
The processing they do in phones these days is impressive. Still, what it creates, while visually appealing when posted to social media, is not necessarily accurate. It works well enough for subjects (people, food, etc). However, atypical features such as sharp edges or fast-moving objects, sometimes cause strange effects to appear in the final result.
Another aspect is handling. A DSLR has dedicated controls for most settings that are typically tweaked per shot whereas phones make you navigate a touchscreen interface (if the settings are available at all).
As for smartphones killing DSLRs, that's probably an accurate assessment only when looking at people who shouldn't have been using a DSLR in the first place (those buying an entry-level model and never looking beyond the kit lens). For professional or otherwise serious use, the DSLR (or mirrorless equivalent) isn't going anywhere any time soon.
