Probably the HD560s because I'm thinking you'll probably be using it for gaming without applying any EQ, and the HD560s sounds better (more balanced) without EQ than the Simgot EP5 without EQ. For positional audio in fps gaming you don't really want lots of bass as it can muddy the sound cues a bit, so again the HD560s is better on that front.
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That's great! Thanks for letting us know he's measured it. It looks like a pretty nice one to EQ, as the EQ is not working too hard as if you look at it broadly he's only having to take down the treble peak at 6kHz and the bass peak at 100Hz, it's an efficient easy EQ! I'll be trying it fairly soon, I think that's a great omen for this headphone the way this has measured. Eyeballing it, it measures pretty close to the one unheard labs measured which is the one I based my EQ on.index/list_of_presets - oratory1990
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Oratory published the EP5 measurements :
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Like UnheardLab, it's not so far from Harman target with a bit of brightness at 6 kHz but YES, the too elevated bass.
I definitely went back to the AKG K371 for my personal preference. At first the EP5 is fun with this bass boost but it gives a compressed sound in a "vertical way". The bass is too elevated compared to male voices, it masks a bit.
As usual, the K371 seem more neutral, more linear but a bit much darker because of the 4 kHz dip.
"Better a dip than a peak"
Still, the EP5 do a very good job, way better than a lot of headphones measuring badly, and for ~80 €.
Oratory's EQ is really good on this one I think, so I'd recommend to use just his EQ. I don't think you need to bother with messing around with ports and pads if you're EQ'ing anyway. At least you have some measurements there regarding blocked ports and the changed pads but I don't know how comparable the measurements are - as in are they the same unit of headphone, and is it the same person who's done the measurement. Using Oratory's EQ or using his measurement & then doing your own EQ based on it is gonna be the most reliable approach.
I've never used Rephase so I can't advise you on that, but there's no need to use that, so instead simply put the ten parametric EQ filters directly in using EqualiserAPO or if you find EqualiserAPO difficult to use then use the PEACE extension that you can download that bolts onto EqualiserAPO and gives you a graphical interface that is a bit simpler to use and understand than the original EqualiserAPO interface.Thats great! What do you think about soundstage for a closed back? I think it's not bad
You're right Robo, messing around with ports and pads is complicated. But I tried the 10 EQs of Oratory and the sound became small and without life. I'll have to change it a bit, depending on ears and/or models it can sound different.
Note: I put all 10 EQs in Rephase, to export a txt file in APOequalizer, maybe there's a problem with my Rephase parameters.
Cool, as I said I really can't advise you on Rephase so potentially can't say to you you're messing something up by using it - but if you know how to use it & you know what it does then don't worry about it. In terms of the parametric filters though - if you put Oratory's filters in right then I can see you having a good experience with the EP5 - at least from my own experience - the bass is really lovely with it combined with the good overall clarity, lovely headphone. And if you find you want to increase the bass (as you said), then that's a completely normal thing to tweak - Harman say that's pretty much an established practice to tweak the bass to your preference.Interesting what you say about soundstage Robo, thanks for sharing your experience.
I didn't know PEACE extension, nice.
I think I did someting wrong in Rephase, I finally put the ten Oratory EQs in APO, it's great now - I just put a little more subbass, it was too dry for me.
Next step will be to find a portable Dac/DSP for it
