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Sigberg Audio Saranna (fullrange, cardioid active floorstander) development thread

Played around a bit in the measurement corner today to try to find the closest I could measure and still get the bass drivers to sum up with the coax without getting too much room interaction. This is around 75cm distance and 10 degrees off-axis. Some unevenness due to the room still, but at least shows the pretty impressive 20-20khz response.

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Disclaimer: Anecdotal and subjective stuff coming up. :)

Yesterday I had a visitor who wanted to listen to Saranna. One hour in, he concluded that "This is the best I have ever heard. I want them in white."

It's been a while since I've described the sound in this thread, so I will attempt to describe some of what he heard and liked based on a conversation with him. His taste in music was relatively wide, but with a preference for older, classic rock (Led Zeppelin, AC/DC, Fleetwood Mac, Uriah Heep, Black Sabbath, etc). While most of those artists have their share of relatively poorly recorded albums, there's also quite a bit that sounds pretty good. We also listened to a number of more contemporary tracks across various genres.

First of all, he appreciated how the sound did not appear to come from the speakers at all. The sound exists in a three dimensional space in front of and around you. This is an experience that comes to life through a combination of the characteristics of the speakers and the room that they're in (well damped, speakers placed relatively wide. About 10 degrees toe-in).

Second, his subjective and somewhat vague comment was "It just sounds.. real." He commented vocals specifically as very lifelike. And he also commented percussion and bass. Here I think what he noticed was how full / rich the sound was, not just in the deep bass, but also in the 100-500hz area. Drums and percussive instruments sound large and dynamic rather than "canned" and compressed as it often does through speakers. He also commented several times how good it sounded even at moderate to low levels (we turned down the volume several times to discuss and comment).

He also spent quite some time marveling over the coaxial driver, and how he thought it sounded very smooth and detailed, but not hard or fatiguing at all. At one point he compared it to the sound of some electrostatic loudspeakers he had heard, and that very open, effortless sound you often get from those.

Finally we turned it up quite a bit through a few tracks, which always make people smile, this guy included. They hit hard and the sound is both tight and deep. No need to choose between deep bass and slam/punch, you get both.

He apparently had some esoteric power amplifiers that basically cost as much as the Sarannas (even second hand), so now his plan is to just sell those to finance the Sarannas. :)

It may be easy to think that I influenced him by asking him whether he heard this or that, but those who have met me would know that I'm anything but a sales person. I hardly spaek at all through auditions like this. People basically have to sell the speakers to themselves. :D
 
My apologies, apparently it's at 5PM EDT / 11PM CET tonight. :) Good thing I double checked, so I actually show up in time. :D Check it out for a discussion about the Saranna between me, James and Gene!

 
49 minutes. :)

It´s a pleasure to have listened to you live. I particularly liked the details on the drivers.
I also expected the questions about multichannel expansion (it couldn´t be just me). I remember you showed your drafts for a center speaker, so I hope the future gets as bright as the present.
 
It´s a pleasure to have listened to you live. I particularly liked the details on the drivers.
I also expected the questions about multichannel expansion (it couldn´t be just me). I remember you showed your drafts for a center speaker, so I hope the future gets as bright as the present.

Thank you! :D
 
I too much enjoyed and was impressed by your live appearance and excellence of "Sarrana" as well as its drivers.

Again, let me cordially suggest you appointing your official dealer/distributor in Japan very soon, and you will have your dedicated room at coming (and/or next year?) Tokyo International Audio Show 2025 (and/or 2026)!:D

If it would be the case, I myself shall be the first place on the line of audiences to your room, and I am very much looking forward to talking/discussing with you personally...
 
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Congrats Thorbjoern!

Multichannel setup?
Problem solved. There’s already an unbeatable solution: 5 x mantas and 4 x 10D!
 
Congrats Thorbjoern!

Multichannel setup?
Problem solved. There’s already an unbeatable solution: 5 x mantas and 4 x 10D!

Yes! I guess people are very used to seeing horizontal center speakers, and of course it's often needed to not block the screen. Putting a Manta on its side might not work that well, but an SBS.1 on its side would work just fine. And the coaxial driver is the same as in the Manta, so that would work well with regards to tonal similarity too. :)
 
I was wondering, would the cardioid approach benefit a further version of your existing bookshelves?
 
I was wondering, would the cardioid approach benefit a further version of your existing bookshelves?

You are thinking about the SBS? We are unlikely to create a cardioid version of that model, but we might do a cardioid bookshelf/monitor that is smaller than the Manta. But that would then probably be a separate model, not a new version of the SBS.
 
You are thinking about the SBS? We are unlikely to create a cardioid version of that model, but we might do a cardioid bookshelf/monitor that is smaller than the Manta. But that would then probably be a separate model, not a new version of the SBS.
Yeah I was thinking about an SBS. It may not be worth it to add the cardioid configuration, as the model is performant as is.
 
Yeah I was thinking about an SBS. It may not be worth it to add the cardioid configuration, as the model is performant as is.

Yes, and while an iteration of the SBS will come in due time, I would like to keep it close enough to the original that I can keep the history of reviews and feedback from customers. If cardioid was implemented, it would basically be a different speaker. So from a marketing perspective it's better to do that in a separate model. :)
 
On the HT section of questions, do you have someone close to you with a Marantz/Denon device that can route LFE to the main speakers? I am asking because it could be interesting to test it on the Saranna´s two bass woofers. On measures, they look perfectly capable of taking LFE signal along with the rest and that could mean saving the use of a subwoofer plus, in te future, even better performance for Dirac ART.
 
On the HT section of questions, do you have someone close to you with a Marantz/Denon device that can route LFE to the main speakers? I am asking because it could be interesting to test it on the Saranna´s two bass woofers. On measures, they look perfectly capable of taking LFE signal along with the rest and that could mean saving the use of a subwoofer plus, in te future, even better performance for Dirac ART.

Yes, that would certainly work as long as you stay within the limits of their SPL capability. The bass capability of each speaker is roughly on par with one of our Inkognito 12" subwoofers, realistically even more powerful in the bottom end (below 25hz) since the speakers are ported.
 
A longer report from Oslo Hifishow 2025 from Norwegian magazine Stereopluss:

Saranna is mentioned around 2:10, 3:05 and 13:44. One of the reporters found the Saranna to be the best sound in the price range. :) He had Kef Reference 5 in second place, which is interesting as they cost the same but are passive, so in reality more expensive.

They talk Norwegian but the subtitles work fine.

 
It's now only 10 days left of the Saranna pre-order period (10% discount). After this date, Saranna will be unavailable for purchase until it is in stock and preorders have been processed, estimated to August 2025.

Pre-orders can be made here: https://www.sigbergaudio.com/products/saranna
 
We had a potential customer from Italy audition both the SBS.1, Manta and Saranna during a 2 hour session the other day, and he said that he doubted he would have been able to distinguish between the Saranna and the Manta in a blind test. So the Sarannas are starting to get production ready. :)

Personally I find them to sound slightly different, but I'd be hard pressed to say that one sounds better than the other.
 
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