Ken1951
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I remember seeing the Ford twist wheel in mags back in the day. Weirded me out.
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I say bring it on but my lawyer advises me that we live in such a litigious world in which 'new/improved' means it will always have the stench of lawsuits, as accompanying excess luggage!
On the flip side: There must be a very justified reason why race cars (F1/Indy/etc.) haven't adopted such technology. Could it be that those drivers never text from their vehicles?
On the flip side: There must be a very justified reason why race cars (F1/Indy/etc.) haven't adopted such technology. Could it be that those drivers never text from their vehicles?
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Maybe that would promote more passing in F1 if they had to text. At random times, they get a text, and have 30 seconds to reply. Whatever method for texting they come up with would have real world safety benefits to trickle down to regular drivers.I say bring it on but my lawyer advises me that we live in such a litigious world in which 'new/improved' means it will always have the stench of lawsuits, as accompanying excess luggage!
On the flip side: There must be a very justified reason why race cars (F1/Indy/etc.) haven't adopted such technology. Could it be that those drivers never text from their vehicles?
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IMHO the yoke in the model S makes absolutely no sense with the turning radius of the steering itself
even the one in the Toyota bz4x didn't make it into production yet, i think...even tho it is the first commercially used fly-by-wire with a progressive steering ratio (so you don't have to over-reach because it doesn't even turn full circle)
and regarding the flight stick, Mercedes had a prototyope somewhen in the early 00's (or was it in the leta 90's?) with it, fly-by-sire wasn't allowed in cars back then tho so even they said it was only for show
even the one in the Toyota bz4x didn't make it into production yet, i think...even tho it is the first commercially used fly-by-wire with a progressive steering ratio (so you don't have to over-reach because it doesn't even turn full circle)
and regarding the flight stick, Mercedes had a prototyope somewhen in the early 00's (or was it in the leta 90's?) with it, fly-by-sire wasn't allowed in cars back then tho so even they said it was only for show
One of the benefits to a yoke style steering wheel on a race car/track car is always knowing how much steering lock you have on and the position of the front wheels, very handy when you have oversteer or when you spin out as you instantly know what lock to apply to drive out.
I don’t think I’d ever want a yoke on a street car, never drove a yoke on the road but have been on the track a couple of times in a mates lotus exige which was fitted with a yoke, needless to say i spun it a few times and realised the benefit’s of such a wheel.
I don’t think I’d ever want a yoke on a street car, never drove a yoke on the road but have been on the track a couple of times in a mates lotus exige which was fitted with a yoke, needless to say i spun it a few times and realised the benefit’s of such a wheel.
F1, Indycar, many if not most IMSA & WEC cars use a steering “wheel” where there is only one place to put each hand. Most (but not all) racers driving production based cars keep their hands fixed in a 3&9 position if the car has a true wheel. On the track, if you need to move your hands you’re likely about to go agricultural and/or hit something.
On the street it’s an entirely different situation. I’d hate to have to parallel park a car, navigate a u turn, back into a parking place,… with a yoke.
On the street it’s an entirely different situation. I’d hate to have to parallel park a car, navigate a u turn, back into a parking place,… with a yoke.
Being a year newer, the 528i had actual buttons for the idrive, which was nice. The i6 is also silky smooth and effortless.
The 550i is far quicker and, with the sport suspension, had far better handling, especially with the active anti-roll bars and stronger brakes. I took the 550i to the track a few times, and once I put on race pads, it was hilariously and easily fast. Sure, a Miata could corner quicker, but then I'd pass it in the straight and never see it again, while also passing a WRX and a GTI and almost everything else. It also balanced beautifully on corners when under power, communicating exactly how its weight was shifting. It's a true driver's car. A lot of fun.
While steering wheels are an interesting aside, I thought I would bring us back on topic.
Even though this not my car, I enjoy visiting it often.
Even though this not my car, I enjoy visiting it often.
Do you really want to see a photo of a 2004 VW Golf TDI?
Yes, but their "road" (the SKY) is a bit more flexible than asphalt & the other things that we grounders call roads. Since there is no road feel, the yoke(s) is/are appropriate.
Then you could use this:
Proper introductions require a name to go along w/your girl next door!
Since your pornstar is a daily driver: Her first name would suffice!
sorry to disappoint but they are simply referred to as The Turbo and The Wagon. I’m open to suggestions…Proper introductions require a name to go along w/your girl next door!
Since your pornstar is a daily driver: Her first name would suffice!
I had an Audi Coupe Quattro; her name was Helena.
My GTO (aka goat) is aptly named Gruff2 (as in Billy Goat Gruff)...
It mattered more in the old days when cars broke down often: Having proper names -- to cuss 'em down with -- felt like it worked... sometimes!
Let us know what you decide. Make it good!
The only car I’ve ever named was my first “sports car”, a 1971 Datsun 510 I named QuasimotoI had an Audi Coupe Quattro; her name was Helena.
My GTO (aka goat) is aptly named Gruff2 (as in Billy Goat Gruff)...
It mattered more in the old days when cars broke down often: Having proper names -- to cuss 'em down with -- felt like it worked... sometimes!
Let us know what you decide. Make it good!
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My grandmother had one of those. My grandfather purchased a new one for her because he was happy with the Datsun pickup he had. Worst car she ever had. Before it was 6 months old, she would call someone to see if they were going to be home when she drove into town for groceries because there was a good chance she'd need them. Hers was that orange color with an ivory or parchment interior. I hope hers was atypical. If they'd had lemon laws then hers would have qualified to go back more than once.
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Regardless of what the internet tells you about the history of that car brand; I have a better version:
Year was 1958, their first car was being sent for USA sale.
Introduction was a rush job!
While the German-registry cargo-ship is navigating the Atlantic, they realized that their car lacked a name.
They urgently ask the German ship captain to figure a name for their car; as Germans have been successful with car intros in the USA.
Captain (w/a heavy German accent) asks how urgent. They tell him they need a name before they reach the US East Coast!
Captain replies "Dat Soon?"...
...so the car was christened the Datsun1000.
I like my version better!My experience was quite different. The 510 was a great platform for its time and was a lot of fun to drive. It was also very successful in motorsports. One of my more favorite cars I’ve owned.
