Serious Question: How can DAC's have a SOUND SIGNATURE if they measure as transparent? Are that many confused?

[Jimbob54]

Atomicbob is my choice of pure science, emotionless cold. I don’t like that S board he stayed on, though. You guys are too emotional compared with him.

Exactly wrong !

 

[chris0202]

This is Audio Science Review not Audio Opinion Review.

I figured you are not from English speaking country. This is from dictionary, linguistics evidence, which is social science.

So officially, you can call it Audio Opinion Review, as long as you are clear by definition.

Have you ever thought about why I post after all? Never mind, you don't need me in your life. This is my last post to you.

 

[chris0202]

Exactly wrong ! View attachment 66668

Maybe, but he won't even say that out. I have rarely saw him engaged in anything, he will just post link to his length write-ups I cannot get any ideas about what message he was trying to convey.

Yours, however, are very straight forward and super easy to read. And you even care to post a picture to help understanding it. I believe people in real life generally like your type more. You are indeed a nice guy, despite I don't get along with you. I won't talk shit about you elsewhere.

 

[SIY]

Have you ever thought about why I post after all?

No, it's pretty clear.

 

[Jimbob54]

Maybe, but he won't even say that out. I have rarely saw him engaged in anything, he will just post link to his length write-ups I cannot get any ideas about what message he was trying to convey.

Yours, however, are very straight forward and super easy to read. And you even care to post a picture to help understanding it. I believe people in real life generally like your type more. You are indeed a nice guy, despite I don't get along with you. I won't talk shit about you elsewhere.

No offence , but I'm just posting frivolities, not trying to engage you in technical discussion. Thats easy. Seems like your technical standpoint is at odds to a few on here. I'd suggest either taking what they say on board, or backing away from that discussion if you have reached an impasse.

Have a night off, calm the melodrama, lighten up. Sleep safe in the knowledge you know massively more than me and many others here, but not more than some.

 

[Blumlein 88]

@solderdude how will you ever fill the hole in your life?

 

[Jimbob54]

@solderdude how will you ever fill the hole in your life?

In his shed , banging out XLR to quarter inch adaptors I reckon. There's gold in that thur solder.

 

[BDWoody]

This is my last post to you.

I hope he can get over it.

I have rarely saw him engaged in anything

What is your native language? Maybe that's part of the problem...

 

[Blumlein 88]

I figured you are not from English speaking country.
snip.

I figured you weren't a native English speaker. Do I have this wrong?

 

[Racheski]

That depends on your prospective. If they ended up being happy, what’s wrong then? Extreme case, do you have to make a cancer patient accept he has zero hope left, and get prepared properly face near death? One of my acquaintances’ aunt got cancer 10 years back, depressed for quite a while, but later devoted to Buddhism. Then her altitude changed positively, and actually got a lot better and even survived the cancer....

Think in place of a budget-tight buyer, or a mid-range buyer without satisfying choice.

I am so triggered right now. Please someone un-trigger me.

 

[CtheArgie]

I am so triggered right now. Please someone un-trigger me.

Wait, wait!!!! chris0202 seems to claim that converting to Buddhism cured the woman's cancer? Maybe flashlights under the skin cure COVID-19, or injections of Clorox....

 

[BDWoody]

I am so triggered right now. Please someone un-trigger me.

Not worth getting upset by ignorance...there's too much of it around for that.
Makes me appreciate the forum even more.
Have pity, not anger.

 

[Racheski]

Not worth getting upset by ignorance...there's too much of it around for that.
Makes me appreciate the forum even more.
Have pity, not anger.

Appreciate ya, especially with the riots 1/4 mile away from me. On another note, on head-fi I was asking for amp recommendations to pair with the Aeon 2 Open, and a poster remarked, "Amps and DACs are not only about specs but about sound they can produce."

I wrote, "Currently, I believe the measurements of DAC/AMPs are the most significant factor that determine how a device sounds so I'm leaning towards the Topping, but I do appreciate that there are different schools of thought on this."

Didn't get a response.

 

[Blumlein 88]

Appreciate ya, especially with the riots 1/4 mile away from me. On another note, on head-fi I was asking for amp recommendations to pair with the Aeon 2 Open, and a poster remarked, "Amps and DACs are not only about specs but about sound they can produce."

I wrote, "Currently, I believe the measurements of DAC/AMPs are the most significant factor that determine how a device sounds so I'm leaning towards the Topping, but I do appreciate that there are different schools of thought on this."

Didn't get a response.

You are probably toeing the line with a possible ban on head-fi with that post.

 

[BDWoody]

Appreciate ya, especially with the riots 1/4 mile away from me.

Stay safe... There a real problems out there...this is entertainment.

 

[solderdude]

Atomicbob is my choice of pure science, emotionless cold. I don’t like that S board he stayed on, though. You guys are too emotional compared with him.

I have been in contact with Bob a few times... you are totally wrong about him. He is anything but emotionless cold.
I like the S board actually, they can provide me with a good laugh now and then. There are some misguided folks there though, but also some really nice and helpful people. A bit like this place but very very different.

 

[solderdude]

"Amps and DACs are not only about specs but about sound they can produce."

He is right, transformer hum or coil whine from SMPS is annoying when it reaches audible levels. Also the sound they produce when hitting the floor from about 1m height differs substantially.

 

[maverickronin]

I have been in contact with Bob a few times... you are totally wrong about him. He is anything but emotionless cold.
I like the S board actually, they can provide me with a good laugh now and then. There are some misguided folks there though, but also some really nice and helpful people. A bit like this place but very very different.

SBAF is plenty useful if you stay in the headphone measurement and modding threads.

Just keep your head down when people start talking about a DAC's sound signature.

 

[Racheski]

Does anyone have an example of a cheap, older DAC that introduces enough distortion for an obvious "sound signature" ? I think it would be interesting to pick one up and see how it sounds.

 

[maverickronin]

Does anyone have an example of a cheap, older DAC that introduces enough distortion for an obvious "sound signature" ? I think it would be interesting to pick one up and see how it sounds.

You can find plenty of ultra cheap modern ones which have a high enough noise floor to be easily noticed with sensitive IEMs.