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Sennheiser HD569 Headphone Review
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Amirm didn't like Nectar Hive. "Extreme low distortion" but messy and high treble. Would be better buy low distortion headphone and then EQ it ur liking? This is still my favor HP. It's so clean sounding and fast because it's electrostatic. Still many ranked it better than some estats that cost many times more.Beats many expensive headphones in distortino
DonR
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For a Sennheiser, $80 is low-end.Beats many expensive headphones in distortino
HD569 100$ vs Hive 600$, proven comfort for me for Senn, can drive with anything without extra equipment.
Yeah, Sennheiser does amazing job at low price category! HD560S another example
You cant compare it directly to this headphone. Look how much estats normally is priced. So it's very cheap to compared other estat headphones.
It doesn't matter too much which way round you do it, as long as the Total EQ Curve is the same it doesn't matter. But for good EQ practice the most important thing is to boost wide areas using a low Q filter and then you can then use negative filters around them to cut down the excess around the point you want to boost, and you can cut quite sharply if you want (High Q negative filters) - this ends up resulting in a potentially large boost at your chosen frequency but it will have a rounded peak - so it's the best way of getting the largest boost possible to fill a hole in a frequency response whilst enabling you to stay away from the ringing that can be caused by the other alternative of using a single large boost sharp (high Q) filter. Amir goes the straight forward path of just using a single boost filter to kind of fill a gap, but it's not optimal. Oratory generally uses the EQ approach I mentioned as optimal, and it's also how I do my own EQ's too. (In Amir's defence, I think he's said his main priority is not in providing EQ's for headphones, and he knows he eyeballs his EQ's rather than using a graphical EQ tool to do it more accurately, but he obviously does listen to make sure his EQ's are an improvement - it's just technically it's not the most optimal approach).
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HD559 is not HD569 (the reviewed headphone by Amir). HD559 is open backed for a start vs the HD569 closed back that is reviewed here by Amir. Not sure on the relevance of the correlation, I don't think there is one.wow meow headless panther
tested 2021 Sennheiser HD 559 i have , must maybe i do another frequency sweep i tested at least few times but i'm not all keen on the low end roll off . must test again .
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i be doing a repeated test a bit more extended than my first test as i like to improve with a few simplicity simply EQ
solderdude
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This is what the HD559 should measure like. (red or teal trace)
The gold trace is with some leakage.
It is very obvious you stick a mic in that pinna and hold that in front of the headphone without sealing it.
This measurement method is completely incorrect.
Crinacle:
The gold trace is with some leakage.
It is very obvious you stick a mic in that pinna and hold that in front of the headphone without sealing it.
This measurement method is completely incorrect.
Crinacle:
solderdude
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yes, somewhat similar but not the same as seen in the black target trace of the Crinacle measurement.
Below 1kHz is a measurement error due to lack of seal.
You cannot base any EQ on your measurement without knowing the influence of the pinna and roll-off caused by imperfect seal.
Below 1kHz is a measurement error due to lack of seal.
You cannot base any EQ on your measurement without knowing the influence of the pinna and roll-off caused by imperfect seal.
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I have had HD600, HD650, HD800 due to their popularity and rave reviews. Just don't like them. After I sold them, I purchased 650 again and trying to make sure my hearing is correct. But eventually I sold all of them and never touch Sennheiser anymore. The Sennheiser veil is real.
solderdude
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The Sennheiser veil = non hyped treble and people who prefer some extra treble find particular Sennheiser models 'veiled'.
The HD800 does have hyped treble so does not fall into this category.
When you find something 'veiled' it helps if you use other words than 'veiled' as that can mean many things.
Which headphones do you feel do not have 'veils' ?
(older) AKG, Grado, audio-technica, Beyerdynamic, hifiman ?
That said I did measure one that was 'veiled' (the blue trace) compared to other versions I measured. It also had less bass extension.
It had audible less treble so there are differences between HD650 (over the years)
The HD800 does have hyped treble so does not fall into this category.
When you find something 'veiled' it helps if you use other words than 'veiled' as that can mean many things.
Which headphones do you feel do not have 'veils' ?
(older) AKG, Grado, audio-technica, Beyerdynamic, hifiman ?
That said I did measure one that was 'veiled' (the blue trace) compared to other versions I measured. It also had less bass extension.
It had audible less treble so there are differences between HD650 (over the years)
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Steve Dallas
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I received the headphones back from Amir today. The ear pads are soft memory foam that bounces right back from any pressure applied to it. The ear pads are not deformed. What you see in the photo is wrinkles in the velour fabric. Also, the box contains a foam insert into which the headphones are fitted. There is no way to put the cable between the ear pads. The cable has its own compartment molded into the foam insert.
That's useful to know your conclusions on that - so the product came new like that then. It's possible the wrinkles are still responsible for the inconsistencies Amir saw between channels though. I haven't really seen such wrinkles in Sennheiser headphones before, but they don't normally use memory foam I don't think. Actually, that's an idea, are those for sure the stock pads that came with the headphone, they're not aftermarket pads are they?
At least in terms of look, they look like the originals I have at home right now.
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