Sounds like i will forget about the 800's and grab the 800s instead
I wish we could get a 1000$ new pair of cans with the best sound stage ever and an amazing neutral response i own 3 pairs of V based headphones and you know how often they are used?
As often as i have friends over which is at best every 3M
The difference is in the amount of second harmonics and third, test have been done between them
https://www.reddit.com/r/oratory1990/comments/arz1aq
Things like bass "lossenes" and "impact" are bullshit, both EQ'ed to the same target WILL sound the same
Get the cheapest you can find S or no S