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DonH56

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Mom?

Sad but all too true, all too often. Letting our kids fail was one of the hardest things we ever did. They came back strong, thankfully.
 

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When I was 18 and not doing anything helpful or constructive the old man said to me, "Well son. Isn't it about time you were leaving home?" I replied, "Where am I supposed to go, dad?" He said, "Well son, that's not my problem. Is it?" I could see that he had a point. Enlisted in the army and proceeded to grow up.
 

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My brother was thrown out the house when around 20 years old because he was a pain in the butt (I of course was goody two shoes!).

We were brought up the same - taught to save for things like bicycles etc.. I learnt those lessons; he didn't. All his life he could never manage money. Indeed on the day our mother died he was due to visit her to borrow money. He was the more intelligent of the two of us based on school performances.

I've never understood why we were so different. I can only think it was because of different friends at school and after.

We did have one thing in common though - we both loved music. We had piano lessons but he had some talent - I didn't. He played a bit and listened too. I just listened. So here I am!
 

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The indulged are the victims of indulgers. o_O
 

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DonH56

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I like the ' he works almost full time ' I think @DonH56 qualifies for that by end of play on a Wednesday ha ha

LOL, ha, ha, ha... Oh, wait, that's true, rats! As soon as my retirement fund recovers and I add a bit, say about 141 years, I can retire!
 

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My brother was thrown out the house when around 20 years old because he was a pain in the butt (I of course was goody two shoes!).

We were brought up the same - taught to save for things like bicycles etc.. I learnt those lessons; he didn't. All his life he could never manage money. Indeed on the day our mother died he was due to visit her to borrow money. He was the more intelligent of the two of us based on school performances.

I've never understood why we were so different. I can only think it was because of different friends at school and after.

We did have one thing in common though - we both loved music. We had piano lessons but he had some talent - I didn't. He played a bit and listened too. I just listened. So here I am!

It is amazing to me how different children raised in the same household can be in their values and ethics. I think how people turn out is a combination of how they are wired and environment. You see it all the time, people who have every opportunity, are not enabled, and fail, and those who despite having the deck stacked against them at every step of the way still succeed. (Note my definition of fail and succeed is if the person is a productive contributing member of society, whether a janitor or founder of a large company employing thousands).

I realized as a parent years ago, the best I can do is to help my child become the best person he can be, even if that doesn't meet my vision of what is best. I have one child and he has had his struggles, but appears to be through the worst of them. It has been challenging, but nothing compared to that of a colleague who has two children in their 20s, one successful and one who for years, despite my colleague doing everything in his power to help, he fears will he will get a call any day that he is dead.
 

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my mother had me escorted out of our apartment at 17 in handcuffs and brought down to Jamaica for 6 months of boot camp, then flown to Montana for an additional 2 months; after turning 18, left at a train station in Montana with $50 and a ticket to Seattle, which I was not from. Not sure that's the best path, but it did get me going!
 
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