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Second Wave Kali IN-8 Announcement: -12dB self noise

A real peril at our place: kitty claws. :eek:

Hard to solve for that without an electrified cage either for the cat or for the speaker.

If for the speaker the cat would likely destroy an entire life savings worth of furniture, art, carpet, walls, appliances, and everything else in a house.

Behaved cats are nice things though... In other peoples houses. Like boats.
 
Hard to solve for that without an electrified cage either for the cat or for the speaker.

If for the speaker the cat would likely destroy an entire life savings worth of furniture, art, carpet, walls, appliances, and everything else in a house.

Behaved cats are nice things though... In other peoples houses. Like boats.

Cats generally get over the urge to claw up stuff between the ages of 2 and 3 -- but, until then, they're like furry, highly athletic toddlers and everything is fair game for clawing and exploratory climbing (which tends to involve some clawing). For starters, I'm just going to slide the outer (the Kalis came double-boxed) shipping cartons over the speakers when I'm not around for Kali Kitty Kontrol® duty. If that works, maybe I'll give those cartons a tasteful music-themed paint job. :cool:
 
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Try contacting Kali and let them know your situation, maybe they can change the parts for a slightly fee if you are willing to send.
I know some company do this to provide a great customer base.

tried, no luck - not even a discount :( Looks like I'm spending $800 again. Anyone want to buy a pair of 1st gens? Perfect condition :)
 
tried, no luck - not even a discount :( Looks like I'm spending $800 again. Anyone want to buy a pair of 1st gens? Perfect condition :)
Boulderdash, sell em you shouldnt take a hit as they are pristine condition and really disappointed with Kali customer service, oh well!
 
Boulderdash, sell em you shouldnt take a hit as they are pristine condition and really disappointed with Kali customer service, oh well!

I don't mean to sound down on Kali or anything, they certainly don't owe me something - they did mention they didn't expect to be able to release a v2 anytime soon either due to parts availability in the middle of covid, but they were finally able to source parts. I'm sure if something actually went wrong with my monitors their support would be great :) (and I think it speaks for itself how much I like these monitors, that I'm going to spend $800 on them a second time :p )
 
For starters, I'm just going to slide the outer (the Kalis came double-boxed) shipping cartons over the speakers when I'm not around for Kali Kitty Kontrol® duty. If that works, maybe I'll give those cartons a tasteful music-themed paint job. :cool:

as a cat afficionado you should know better - cats LOVE boxes...it's about the same as if you'd smear peanut butter over them while having a dog...

not sure about them being racist (KKK?)...
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my Dali floorstanders never had the grills on and my cat loves to sleep in front of them, but hasn't clawed on any of them (there is a scratch mat on the rug, not even half a meter away though)
 
as a cat afficionado you should know better - cats LOVE boxes...it's about the same as if you'd smear peanut butter over them while having a dog...

not sure about them being racist (KKK?)...
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my Dali floorstanders never had the grills on and my cat loves to sleep in front of them, but hasn't clawed on any of them (there is a scratch mat on the rug, not even half a meter away though)

Mine only like boxes they can get into -- they're not all that interested in clawing up the outside. For that, they much prefer wood. ;)
 
I've not seen it mentioned, does the IN-8 2nd Wave have auto-standby?
 
I've not seen it mentioned, does the IN-8 2nd Wave have auto-standby?

Not AFAIK -- I assume if it did, there'd be a defeat option. That said, given that the PSU is a switcher and the amps are Class D there's not a whole lot of current draw when there's no incoming signal.
 
Don't have too much to add, just wanted to chime in and say that I have been extremely happy with my in-8v2. Have used them for around ~2 months now. Can confirm that there is almost no self noise which is awesome. I came from equator audio d5 (also coaxial) and decided to move on from them because I was getting tired of the "shshshsh" self noise.

Was not expecting a huge sonic upgrade from the equators but was pleasantly surprised. Couldn't be happier.

You can see my Sonarworks frequency response curves I got. Keep in mind this is measuring speaker AND room and as you can see my room is terrible on the low end, had same exact peaks and nulls with equators as well. Midrange onward is impressively flat. Much more than the equators. Looking forward to seeing what the spinorama folks end up measuring. Let me know if any questions.

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Hope it satisfied your SPL requirements! I don't think I'd recommend anything non-coaxial anymore now that this one doesn't hiss. Can't think of many other things I'd include in my recommended upgrade path: Good headphones --> IN-8 v2 --> Phantoms if you can stand the app and don't want to add a sub for an upgrade --> Genelec coaxial monitors --> Add Genelec subs and use the Kali's as surround speakers.

Maybe if D&D or Kii make a coaxial unit... Or somehow sound so much better than my already flat Genelecs that I forgive them for their legacy design. With Buchardt making higher end active designs, I hope it's a matter of time before they release something to compete with D&D and Kii, and use a coaxial driver to beat them with in room response, imaging, and vertical dispersion.

Not sure if you're making a video on these, but I think it would be cool to talk about and compare coaxial drivers in general. Most people don't know that there are ZERO disadvantages beyond cost for all applications besides main monitors. Genelec has a whitepaper that talks about doppler distortion and diffraction being solved, and apparently they don't use them in high SPL applications because a coaxial unit limits the magnet size available to each driver and they get more SPL out of separate drivers and compression tweeters.

I still see people to this day talking about distortion with coaxials, and Charles Sprinkle just talked about that in the HiFi Summit video: Not an issue on their speakers/modern 3- ways that pay attention to it.

(Note: I'm extremely biased against non-coaxial speakers, and consider them only under budget constraints as they are in the same category as first order crossovers, lossy passive crossovers in general, all parallel walls in higher end speakers, speakers without waveguides that don't pay attention to dispersion, or amps not specifically chosen for individual drivers: Outdated legacy stuff, totally unacceptable by any modern company that says they play what the artist intended, have uncolored sound, etc.)
 
I've not seen it mentioned, does the IN-8 2nd Wave have auto-standby?

When I took the back play off of an IN-8 v1, it looked like the jumper was soldered... Not sure if it's just the EU ones that have standby enabled and allow you to disable it. Can't find the pictures I took unfortunately to confirm.
 
I still see people to this day talking about distortion with coaxials, and Charles Sprinkle just talked about that in the HiFi Summit video: Not an issue on their speakers/modern 3- ways that pay attention to it.
Thanks for the heads up...watching it now:

Live streamed 4hrs ago...
 
Who knew I was going to do this? :p


That looks amazing!
I wish it was available in Canada...sigh...maybe by end of summer?

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Added two images overlaid on top of each other...


I'm thinking about ordering them from Sweetwater if they are as good as people think and say they are. I'm still on the fence between the T8V's and HS8's though. Need to go hear them.
 
teaser...
excellent -- looking forward to it. curious to see the vertical dispersion -- I wonder how they would do on their side as a center channel. maybe not the optimal use but you never know.
 
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