Sealed active subwoofers at a low budget (max 400 euros)

[gasolin75]

I mentioned Elac Debut 3.0 DS103 and Speedwoofer 10e prices basically 300-400 euros

Both are not super expensive but the speedwoofer 10e is very good for the money, if i lived in usa with free shipping the speedwoofer would cost me just under 300 euros but costs extra since it outside of europe

When audioholics reviewed the speedwoofer 10e it was $299 = €258

$300 RSL Speedwoofer 10E Subwoofer Review

RSL's Speedwoofer 10E is an entry-level sub that still has a beefy 10" driver, an intricate enclosure, and a 300-watt amp. Is this the best sub money can buy for $299 shipped? Read our review to find out!

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Even if it's a sub with a port i think i could live with one do to the super good relation between sound quality,power (300 watt rms) and price

What a sealed subwoofer alternative to the same price is, i don't know.

The mentioned elac sub do not have the same power as the speedwoofer but ticks all the boxes although alot more then a speedwoofer costs (the gap narrows if i bought one and have to pay extra for shipping,taxes and handling fee, easily 90-100 euros extra)

4000 danish kr is €536 or £465

I never mentioned i have a budget of €460

Elac Debut 3.0 DS103 cost 400 euros no port no port noise,chuffing, the older andrew jones subwoofer with an 8" woofer and port at the front is €335 but at high spl it has port noise and it's only 8", my current sub is 8"

 

[gasolin75]

They have the Peerless xxls driver as far as i know, good driver.

I think i have to pay for shipping som subs on amazon.de is 40 euros 25% taxes is 75 ish pounds + 22 euros in handling fee i guess 100-150 euros extra

If im lucky 100 euros extra €420 or more

Im only seeing the elac sub as an closed alternative to bk subs and the speedwoofer 10e

 

[kyuu]

At 10", I don't think you should even consider a sub without a port. You need the extra efficiency of the port for any kind of decent output at these smaller sizes. Once you get up to 15", then sealed subs can start to make sense.

Given your price/size constraint and market, that RSL is quite sesnsible.

 

[DanielT]

I never mentioned i have a budget of €460

You're right, sorry I read your #13 too quickly and missed your isn't.

 

[DBA ndreas]

The elac sub does not have the power like the speedwoofer or BK XXLS 400. The SPL level when the port makes unwanted noises is not reached at all by a similar powered closed sub.

So in the end it‘s all about what you ask from a subwoofer. Small low priced subs will not produce high output.

The BK subs are a very good option. Very high quality (real wood veneer or real painted surfaces instead of cheap vinyl wrap). They even built me some passive subs. Great company.

 

[DVDdoug]

and many has a port for extra bass but that often comes with a side effect, port noise, shuffing at medium levels or a little higher

You can't over-generalize. There are many compromises and trade-offs and you can make a good speaker either way. But it is easier to foul-up a ported design.

If you want a smallish box that goes deep, a sealed box with a "large" driver, EQ (DSP or analog, usually built-into an active sub), and LOTS of power is often the best solution. Home subwoofers are often made this way (but there are excellent ported home subs too).

Pro studio woofers/subwoofers are large drivers in large cabinets and they can be ported or sealed and will go down to 20Hz or lower.

Pro subwoofers used live and in dance clubs are usually large drivers in large ported boxes and they usually are tuned to go down to around 40Hz. It's a compromise that's efficient and is loud enough to fill a large venue with bass you can feel in your body.

Another thing is some 8" goes down to 40 hz and can play around 115 db

I'm skeptical. I'd like to see some independent measurements. 40Hz is believable but I'm doubting 115dB, or even "usable" bass at 40Hz. ...I don't think I've heard an 8-inch speaker that puts-out bass you can feel in your chest (which is usually higher than 40Hz). And I consider 10-inches "small" for a woofer. (In reality, size isn't everything but physics do matter.)