SCIBER AMPLOI Amplifier Review

[daniboun]

People hi

Don't mess around: for 1900 euros less you can get a pair of Neumann KH 150: my choice would be quick, let's be a little objective all the same

Same title if you look at the Sinad list that I shared above, you therefore have 76 less expensive alternatives) I think the debate is closed)

 

[aschen]

I cant think of any reason to buy a 60wpc amp in 2025 unless its really cheap

 

[ICIETDIYEUR]

This power requirement is due to the ridiculous efficiency of the speakers used in current productions: if you had speakers with 100 or more dB/W/m in efficiency then you would not say that...

 

[Ropeburn]

I cant think of any reason to buy a 60wpc amp in 2025 unless its really cheap

For me and my listening habits, I agree. But then again there's still the sizeable 2x5W tube amp community for example, which isn't going anywhere. That's easily enough power for moderate volumes if you don't have the most inefficient speakers in the world. There's lots of people who simply don't need more power. And let's be realistic, 2x60W at 8 Ohm would have been thought of as beefy only 30 years ago.

It's only a bad offer in relative terms (for the money). In absolute terms, it's perfectly fine.

 

[terryforsythe]

I think this is the first class AB with switching power supply that I have seen.

It is not uncommon. My Topping LA90 Discrete amplifiers are class A/B with switch mode power supplies, but the power supplies are external to the chassis'. I had a Carver M1.0T amplifier back in the late 80s that was class A/B with a switch mode power supply.

Generally speaking, switch mode power supplies are less expensive to manufacture because they do not require large, expensive, transformers. That kind of begs the question as to why the amplifier the Sciber amp is so darn expensive.

 

[ICIETDIYEUR]

n cinemas at the beginning when there was finally a soundtrack, some cinemas only had a single speaker (Voix du Théatre type box of more than 100dB) with a mono tube amplifier (necessarily) of only 1 Watt!

The sound level was very high and (very) more than sufficient: just look at Amirm's tests where 96dB SPL is already significant for normal/acceptable/hearing-safe domestic use.

 

[aschen]

This power requirement is due to the ridiculous efficiency of the speakers used in current productions: if you had speakers with 100 or more dB/W/m in efficiency then you would not say that...

I tried to chose my words carefully. I think 60wpc is plenty for many applications.

I just cant think of any reason to buy a new 60wpc amp unless its cheap. If its not cheap buy purify, or benchmark, or the smallest bryston if you want AB. There are tons of great options for fancy amps, might as well get some power as well. Maybe your next set of speakers will need it.

 

[Joe Smith]

Yeah, from a value standpoint, this would seem to me to be a very niche product. Odd size/case shape too. Might be good for an instance where someone needs an amp that is more wide than deep? But if I had this kind of money to spend, I would buy the Benchmark amp, or for less money, a Vidar 2.

 

[Noob]

This is actually really nice, but the biggest problem with it is that Boxem and other similar or higher performance amps exist for a lower price.

 

[HalSF]

All I can say is that price is too high, and the price of assuming a kind of Swiss neutrality in the name of an international fraternity of engineering objectivity is also too high. Maybe someday.

An immense sadness and even nausea is what I feel reading this thread.

 

[ocinn]

Their Enflow headphone amp seems very interesting for power hungry headphones, would love to see a review on that, if they are willing to send it over.

Quoted 7wpc, operation down to 1ohm, -120db distortion, and <$900usd at current conversion rates.

ENFLOW - Hi-End Headphones amplifier!

SCIBER ENFLOW — headphone amplifier without compromises!

enflow.ru

 

[Noob]

This is actually really nice, but the biggest problem with it is that Boxem and other similar or higher performance amps exist for a lower price.

Other than simply getting a Boxem amp, one could purchase two LA90 discrete amplifiers for a dual-mono setup and get significantly better power and SINAD performance for a much lower cost than a single one of these amps.

If this was half it's current price, it would be much more competitive with other market options.

 

[Ropeburn]

All I can say is that price is too high, and the price of assuming a kind of Swiss neutrality in the name of an international fraternity of engineering objectivity is also too high.

An immense sadness and even nausea is what I feel reading this thread.

It reminds us too much of the sad state of humanity indeed. I guess we all dream of a perfect world, but growing up is realising it's just that, a dream.

 

[ICIETDIYEUR]

And yes: the earth is a complete, brilliant and self-sufficient 'mechanism', but it was enough for humanity to want to get involved for everything to go haywire...
... we could almost say that perpetual motion was right there before our eyes.

All we have been able to do is try to reproduce as best as possible what exists naturally around us but irremediably in a 'destructive' way: this is a distressing observation.

 

[Andreas007]

To be honest, I don't think this price is competitive anymore. Twenty-five years ago, I bought a Bryston B60 with pretty much the same performance at a comparable price. But it came with a 20-year warranty, and the quality and support you got was sublime. Together with a highly efficient speaker, it was a dream combination.

But times change. Nowadays, with all the cheaper and technically very good alternatives available, there are better ways to spend your money.
And I wouldn't be telling the truth if I said that my purchasing decisions are also based on who I want to support or whose company philosophy I approve of. Due to the current political situation, this device is (sadly) an absolute no-go anyway.

 

[GydruS]

Hi All! Thanks for your comments and attention!

Yes, it is high priced due to strictions and because it was our first project, which was made locally and not perfect in terms of economics.

But from an engineering point of view, we put a lot of effort, time and resources into the development! We used many of our own unique developments and tried to take into account all the little things. For example, the amplifier has all kinds of protection - from constant voltage at the output, from short circuits on the terminals, from overheating, from power supply problems and even from static discharges on the connectors.

Bytheway, this amp's production is going to end soon, making way clear for new devices. So, it may be discounts )

And Thanks a lot Who leave politics aside this thread!

We love to create, not ruine!

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But is 64 watts into 8 ohms great performance? I mean, I get it. More power is only valuable if your use case calls for it. But still I think it’s funny that we factor in all this largely academic, mostly inaudible stuff, and ignore the one thing that has a significant chance of hampering a person’s experience with the product.

This 64 w is enough to use in typical east european flats. For big houses it is recommended to bridge amps to get 220w.

If there's a bare LM3886 (no additional THD correction) then the whole marketing approach looks disrespectful to me. Putting a $5k tag on the amp with $3 chips in it... Better get Neurochrome

The amplifier has a fifth-order correction and other unique solutions. There are not bare chips.

According to the sum of blind testing results of the past: unlikely. If any, very little.

If you listen on $50 speakers, you're right. But some people listen on more expensive speakers. And there is a big difference.

I don't think you can get -120 dB harmonics with a bare 3886, even if you were to parallel several of them

That's right! )

 

[sceptical1]

" The warranty for the electronic part of the amplifier is 3 years "
No mention if this is labor included. I don't want to think about the lack of service options if and when.
This amp may be a reasonable purchase locally, not at all competitive for international distribution.

Twenty-five years ago, I bought a Bryston B60 with pretty much the same performance at a comparable price

It was less than half that price and with 60 real watts, not 60 no headroom SMPS watts.

 

[Tovarich007]

Very strange and unexpected review .
Indeed, this amp is well constructed, its measured specs are very good.
But there are so many buts :
- it's not very powerful ;
- the price is terribly high, especially regarding the standard of living and the the average salary in Russia ;
- there is no innovation (SMPS power unit in class AB amps have been implemented since many years : Chord, Linn, Halcro, Benchmark, and probably many others)
- the brand is mostly unknown ;
A lot of much more affordable amps (often more powerful) have very good measured specs and very good build quality, whatever the class and the type of power unit.

Stunned to see the highest ranking -golfing panther- without any reserve. A happy panther should be much enough rewarding.
I won't give my 120 € twicked Yamaha for this amp,.

 

[GydruS]

I won't give my 120 € twicked Yamaha for this amp,.

I compared AMPLOI to Yamaha A-S2100 in real case of listening. And AMPLOI "Miles Ahead"...

It was less than half that price and with 60 real watts, not 60 no headroom SMPS watts.

Subj has 60+RMS Watts. And it has no problems to drive, for example Raidho TD 3.8.

 

[ICIETDIYEUR]

Good morning.

Sorry for my honesty but I find absolutely nothing interesting in this achievement

Everything is 'reheated' and even the appearance has nothing that could differentiate it from anything...

The very existence of this device is almost anachronistic knowing that we have been doing better for years.

So what was your objective with this device and what 'essential' points required so much 'research' when all the components are known: it is nothing more and nothing less than a PCB assembly that could very easily be found on a known resale site in the East and at prices that are much more than affordable...

For my part, it is just a well-made montage, nothing more, by (passionate) amateurs who have a sort of 'madness of grandeur'

I warned you, I speak with complete honesty (but above all with complete objectivity) but of course my personal comments are my own.

Good luck for the continuation (if I can express myself that way because the term is very poorly chosen).

Respectfully.