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SCIBER AMPLOI Amplifier Review
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JayGilb
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Power is way too low and the price is far too high. Damn shame, it's a nicely designed piece of gear.
Amir, thanks for the review.
Amir, thanks for the review.
thunderchicken
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It looks like a good enough product, but I would not purchase one at that price. I’d be willing to pay around a kilobuck for it. It just feels like it should be $999 with tax, tariffs, and shipping. I know most people wouldn’t even pay that much due to the output power.
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daniboun
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Completely forgot to mention the Soncoz SGP1. This amp is using same kind of design (AB) with a SMPS Psu ... @ 1300€ it is surely a best deal
This is a review and detailed measurements of the SONCOZ stereo class AB power amplifier. It was sent to me by the company about 5 or 6 months ago and costs US $1099.
As you see, the unit comes in gorgeous packaging with custom and VU meters befitting of some of the highest end audio products of 1980s when such feature was popular. The meters also seem to have acceleration and autoscaling as they seem very responsive during my testing. But as you see, one is pegged to max. This only happened when there was no cable attached to that input (it only affected the meter, I...
As you see, the unit comes in gorgeous packaging with custom and VU meters befitting of some of the highest end audio products of 1980s when such feature was popular. The meters also seem to have acceleration and autoscaling as they seem very responsive during my testing. But as you see, one is pegged to max. This only happened when there was no cable attached to that input (it only affected the meter, I...
AudioSceptic
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I think you need to read earlier posts in this thread. ;-)
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I actually like that it has a volume knob. For those who insist on using a DAC with built in volume control, an analog volume control before the amp section can definitely save one’s speakers.
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yes, but for the $4000 premium you are paying for this over what it's worth, you can afford to have two pairs of back up speakers in case they blow.
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The PCB layout should have been optimized for direct connections to the daughter boards instead of the haphazard multiple cabling. The heatsink size can accomodate twice the power this amp delivers, not a problem.
Based on the visuals and performance this looks like a $3K amplifier. Made in china, half the price and a tenth the useable lifetime.
Based on the visuals and performance this looks like a $3K amplifier. Made in china, half the price and a tenth the useable lifetime.
Geopolitics waaaay aside, I just think the "one box that does one thing very well" philosophy is very close to total obsolescence.
In the end, it is the adaptability of your preferred (and hopefully great measuring) speakers to your room that will determine the quality of what you hear. And -in my opinion- it requires versatile, feature rich equipment at the front end to drive them to their best. And I don't want a stack of 5 different devices to accomplish that.
I did vote "fine" because it clearly is well engineered, but I'd never go back to a full 5-level audio rack the way we used to be.
In the end, it is the adaptability of your preferred (and hopefully great measuring) speakers to your room that will determine the quality of what you hear. And -in my opinion- it requires versatile, feature rich equipment at the front end to drive them to their best. And I don't want a stack of 5 different devices to accomplish that.
I did vote "fine" because it clearly is well engineered, but I'd never go back to a full 5-level audio rack the way we used to be.
My thoughts exactly.
I agree. Before I switched over my hobby activity sometime near the year 2000 to operating a desktop PC with headphones and speakers I maintained a large heat producing tall altar of rack mount sized audio gear with 2 huge tri-amp'd active crossover speakers in the living room. The room space was dominated by the light oak furniture holding all the electronics and the 2 tall and large oak speakers. With wires running all over blocking access for the vacuum to suck up the dust bunnies that collected there. I was addicted to the splendid, powerful and dynamic sound that was effortless in reproduction and enjoyment but it was always on my mind that it consumed the entire living room and my wife of the day hated the stuff even if she admitted that it was the best sound of her life. I moved house in the timeframe and frankly the stuff weighed a ton and I really wished I had lighter stuff when I had to carry it all in out out while moving. So when I switched over to a desktop PC and gaming first person shooter stuff I lost interest in having really powerful and large audio gear. I went with headphones and tried several and then started using earbuds because they don't mess my hair up and cause my ears to get warm and itchy. Then I decided to get open back headphones with better venting and that was good but buying the new Technics Bluetooth earbuds that can be connected to 3 sources has been a major gamechanger. I turn off the desktop PC and engage the big screen TV and the earbuds auto switch over to the TV without and input from me and the same if I use my MP4 player is a absolute improvement. They really do sound great and are such a convenience that I rarely use the Sennheiser open back earphones now.
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The "when" has already happened. Here are the two recent ones:
This is a review and detailed measurements of the MAG Theatron S6 home theater surround speaker. It was kindly drop shipped by a member and costs US $944 each.
This is a very compact speaker with super solid enclosure. So much so that the company ships it (and the M-12C I tested) come with no packing material! Speaker's normal configuration is with the tweeter below woofer and that is how I measured it (forgot to take its picture the same way). The waveguide is supposed to be asymmetrical, biased lower, to eliminate the need to tilt the speaker down (which would be...
This is a very compact speaker with super solid enclosure. So much so that the company ships it (and the M-12C I tested) come with no packing material! Speaker's normal configuration is with the tweeter below woofer and that is how I measured it (forgot to take its picture the same way). The waveguide is supposed to be asymmetrical, biased lower, to eliminate the need to tilt the speaker down (which would be...
This is a review, listening tests, EQ and detailed measurements of the MAG Theatron M12-C center speaker. It was kindly drop shipped to me by a member and costs US $2,299.
As you probably can tell, this is a very large speaker. I can imagine it has to be mounted behind a projection screen. The woofer is inset, likely as an attempt to "time align" it with the very deep tweeter (or is it to control its directivity?). Oddly the speaker terminals are on top and are the screw kind. Don't usually see that for speakers aimed for home applications.
Here are the specs...
As you probably can tell, this is a very large speaker. I can imagine it has to be mounted behind a projection screen. The woofer is inset, likely as an attempt to "time align" it with the very deep tweeter (or is it to control its directivity?). Oddly the speaker terminals are on top and are the screw kind. Don't usually see that for speakers aimed for home applications.
Here are the specs...
A third is coming soon and is actually an amplifier as well!
daniboun
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I just hope they don't shoot themselves in the foot like MAG Theatron did....
You mean "How it is usually done" because 1) It allows for higher heatsink temperature without being a health hazard for humans and 2) It mechanically decouples the IC from the chassis so when you drop the case you're destroying the case instead of the IC.
I don't think you can get -120 dB harmonics with a bare 3886, even if you were to parallel several of them
I hadn't seen it.
Attached is the TEXAS application note for high-power amplifiers using
integrated amplifiers .
AN-1192
Attached is the TEXAS application note for high-power amplifiers using
integrated amplifiers .
AN-1192
daniboun
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The amplifier SINAD list is up to date.
Sciber is in 77th position, Topping is still the king )
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Sciber is in 77th position, Topping is still the king )
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Don't mess around: for 1900 euros less you can get a pair of Neumann KH 150: my choice would be quick, let's be a little objective all the same
Don't mess around: for 1900 euros less you can get a pair of Neumann KH 150: my choice would be quick, let's be a little objective all the same
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