Schiit Tyr mono amplifier

[Dana reed]

I thought so too. Doesn’t show up in the AP report on Schiit’s site. I’d send mine to Amir but a. I’m using them daily and b. they would cost lots to ship.

 

[rwortman]

Measurement error, I bet.

 

[Angsty]

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Schiit Audio Tyr monoblock power amplifier Measurements

Sidebar 3: Measurements I tested the Schiit Tyr with my Audio Precision SYS2722 system. I preconditioned the amplifier by following the CEA's recommendation of operating it at one-eighth the specified power into 8 ohms for 30 minutes. At the end of that time, the heatsinks were hot, at 121.3°F...

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J.A. said…

“The THD+N was very low below actual waveform clipping, though the trace in fig.5 has a peculiar discontinuity above 200W. I repeated this test and found this behavior repeatable. I suspect it is related to the amplifier's protection circuitry, though I didn't notice any flashing of the front-panel lights.”

 

[Turcoda]

Alriighhhhht I had to take time off from studying a chem exam because hearing the Tyrs could absolutely wait no longer.
So I had one speaker hooked up to the AHB2 and another hooked up to the Tyr for super quick and efficient switching. Let me start by sayin that a single AHB2 has more than enough power to listen to 1.7is in a medium room at moderate levels. Mind you I don't enjoy listening at loud volumes and never once did I feel that a single AHB2 wasn't enough for a pair of 1.7is. The thing is that AHB2 are better at driving low impedance speakers than most amps, so I don't notice it struggling at all. In fact, the AHB2 is god tier at rendering details in the bass region, even on 1.7is. Yes the Tyrs have more power, but I think i was looking for something else than power when I bought these. I think I was looking for flavor or dynamics. As my younger friends would say: the Tyrs slap hard. Yep, right away I think the Tyrs sound more dynamic and quite different from the AHB2. I'm actually starting to understand why certain people like the AHB2 and others don't. The AHB2 is quite lean in comparison and the notes have a bit more spacing inbetween and kinda hit you faster. I would say that AHB2 is different than most other amplifiers rather than the Tyrs being more different. The Tyrs might sound a bit less linear and have a bit more weight and sound less analytical. The Tyr might have a bit more weight in the mids and certainly sound different in the highs. However, they both have similar levels of detail, or at least I should say I don't feel like im missing anything with the Tyrs - not like I felt like when I was testing lesser amps anyhow. So the difference in detail certainly isn't night and day. My main audio listening is essentially an SR1a with a Jot R amp. This setup is basically the definition of sharp and lean and I dont think any other headphone on the market would match that. I feel like AHB2 exemplifies those qualities, so it's not like i don't appreciate that type of sound at all. I would say both achieve similar levels of great audio quality and if you went with either one of them you still come out a winner. The human brain has an amazing ability to adapt to almost anything, and despite these amps sounding different, I could live with either one and I'm sure you could as well. Most people would have no qualms about being force to live with one over the other. After a couple of listening sessions you could be forgiven for thinking that the flavor they exude is what music should sound like. Neither do anything wrong, but they do offer slightly different flavors. Please keep in mind that the linearity and leanness and analytical side, along with every other quality befit of the AHB2, must very well still be considered a specific flavor of audio. No matter what purist audiophiles think of it as being reference level audio, it still exemplifies qualities different than most other amps on the market. Either way, after having spent several months with the AHB2 I think it might be time for me to try something different and keep the Tyrs around. I'll keep both for a while and report back if I change my mind in the future. I live in Canada and had trouble justifying the Tyrs with the hefty shipping (over 250$ USD) cost and duties (this was over 500$ CAD for me). I only purchased them during the black Friday sale for a reason. I know schiit was originally against sales, but people on the fence with these things just wouldn't have purchased them without that happening. I can post more comments after many more hours of breaking in, but in my experience with hardware is that it doesn't change a significant amount after several days - at least not nearly as much as your brain adapts to the changes.

Just an update. I havent used these in a while because I ended up moving. Prior to the move I was playing with speaker placement and blind testing the AHB2 and Tyrs. I dunno if burn in is a thing with these (I generally dont believe in hardware burn in) and after a while the only small differences I managed to hear between them on my Maggies were in the high frequency region, and even then. The differences we not night and day. Obviously the Tyrs have more power, but I feel like most people would be happy with either AHB2 or Tyrs. The differences are really tiny. I don't have golden ears, and I think the Stereophile review was correct. You'd be hard pressed to notice huge differences. Go with whichever intrigues you the most - both are great. This is mostly a testament to how great both of them are.

 

[restorer-john]

J.A. said…

“The THD+N was very low below actual waveform clipping, though the trace in fig.5 has a peculiar discontinuity above 200W. I repeated this test and found this behavior repeatable. I suspect it is related to the amplifier's protection circuitry, though I didn't notice any flashing of the front-panel lights.”

It's always a joy to view and read JA's reviews. I think he's only beaten by Len Feldman and Louis Challis (of ETI Australia back in the day) in my eyes.

Well written, not a spelling or grammar mistake in sight and everything you can wish for in terms of measurements.

 

[Russ_L]

Thanks, that's very informative. I'm no technical savant and I'll admit I'd never heard of a choke input before this.

But I'm inclined to wonder whether its use isn't adding a lost of cost and weight for minimal improvement.

Musical Fidelity has been using this technique in their higher end amps and preamps forever.

Russ

 

[Jazzmajor]

People are going to come across this when they're searching for those $10,000 USB cables...

Nutters!

 

[Jazzmajor]

It's an amplifier. It's not supposed to have a sound.

Yeah? You're the new Julian Hersch!

 

[Angsty]

Yeah? You're the new Julian Hersch!

Julian was a hero to me. He was berated by audiophiles, but time and science have proven much of what he said to be true.

 

[James Romeyn]

Does the Tyr have MOSFET or bipolar outputs? Just curious.

 

[mSpot]

Does the Tyr have MOSFET or bipolar outputs?

The designer (Jason Stoddard) wrote about Tyr's development and mentioned Toshiba power transistors but not which type. The Stereophile review says bipolar.

 

[MajorMajorMajorMajor]

55 lb amps are relics these days - and I own one! I’d wager a Buckeye or March amp would kick its a** on the test bench. I love my old Class AB amps, but if I were buying new today, it would be Class D.

I had a friend try to power his speakers with Outlaw 2220 amps before he went and bought the Tyrs. Night and day.

 

[Bobo77]

I had a friend try to power his speakers with Outlaw 2220 amps before he went and bought the Tyrs. Night and day.

Hi...Call me slow...but your statement is not clear to me. Were the Tyrs. better than the Outlaw? Just want to confirm.
(Running a McIntosh MC152 here.)....I love Schitt gear...I have a "modified" Freya + and a Loki Max driving my amp.

 

[Angsty]

I had a friend try to power his speakers with Outlaw 2220 amps before he went and bought the Tyrs. Night and day.

The Outlaw 2200 is a lower powered, Class G amp, not Class D.

Outlaw 2200 M-Block Amplifier Review

This is a review and detailed measurements of the Outlaw 2200 single-channel amplifier. It is on kind loan from a member. The 2200 costs US $399 plus shipping although I read that it goes on sale for less than that. I was surprised how svelte the 2200 is given its power capability: The...

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