Jimster480
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It hasn't been out that long anyway right? I mean I can't imagine that the tubes have "aged" anyway even if it was bought on launch day.This unit was purchased 4 months go so pretty new.
It hasn't been out that long anyway right? I mean I can't imagine that the tubes have "aged" anyway even if it was bought on launch day.This unit was purchased 4 months go so pretty new.
I noted earlier that I had measured those in another schiit product (Lyr 2): https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...-measurements-of-schiit-lyr-2-amplifier.8256/Would be interesting if you measure again but with the Solid State Tubes named LISST
Your Choice of No Tubes
Freya+ also offers our LISST “solid state tube” option, which replaces your tubes with depletion-mode MOSFETs in tube-like cans.
I think a 6sn7 tube would last a very long time. I’m not a tech but from most of my reading 10,000 hours in a preamp is not unreasonable. Seems unlikely the tubes in this model tested were burned out
I'm here to tell you the passive and active SS modes sound identical to me once level matched.No doubt. And I've no problem with people liking what they like. I just think active and passive mode should essentially sound the same - and ideally, both put out 4Vrms unless gain is controllable (it might be, could have missed that if it was mentioned, but doesn't look like it from the output graph). As is, it's transparent in unity-gain as a passive, or a very tubey-sounding active - and I don't think they'll appeal to the same people. Perhaps it's intended to essentially be two different products in one box, aimed at two markets: those who like transparent and those who like 'analog warmth' - but it's not a business decision I'd bank on if I ran an audio company. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
I still see no evidence that .005% thd is audible playing music in hi fi gear.One can enter some of these distortion levels in to software created by another member and see for themself: https://distortaudio.org/
Certainly on the related thread, there are comments as to preference/audibility of distortion levels of H2 and H3 lower than this.
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...test-distort-audibility-of-distortions.10163/
I don't hear audible distortion when listening to the tube stage-and my system isn't exactly pedestrian. Of course you may hear distortion but I doubt many could.What I don't get is why?? Why put distortion factories in a product in 2022. They have to know that no matter what it's going to be shite.
No, that tube is crooked. I tried to straighten it but it is in there very solid. Probably could be made to be straight but it was fine as it was so I didn't mess with it too much.
This is the kind of insight that makes you people so entertaining.I think they should stick to their sub $200 entry level products. Their higher priced products just aren't competitive with the competition.
There's got to be a story about how it got this way and likely was not bent out of shape at inspection. Was it disassembled and then reassembled incorrectly, dropped, squished? etc...The thing is that if you're paying a decent price for what is supposed to be a well built unit and something is clearly not straight and its supposed to be that that is not a good customer experience... again some people have no problem with that... but I would... this unit is more than a weeks wages?
Also for a unit supposedly hand built in America, doesnt say much for this company.
besides some tube protection would have also helped. Protruding open tubes would be risky.<snip> Are the tubes (and/or their sockets) really as mis-aligned as they appear in the photo? <snip>
It happens. Their products are not always of the highest quality. It could have also got partially bent in shipping. Who really knows but likely the solder point is not that strongThere's got to be a story about how it got this way and likely was not bent out of shape at inspection. Was it disassembled and then reassembled incorrectly, dropped, squished? etc...
Kindly share us your components in the chain...thank youTrust me, I've listened at extremely high volumes but at those volumes my ears were ringing anyway so detecting distortion was impossible. At normal to high listening levels (with well recorded music) I cannot detect any distortion whatsoever-again probably due to my 63 yo ears and the combination of components in the chain. Bottom line-I'm very happy with the Freya+.
Yes I would be interested to know as well. These types of low SINAD figures are quite easy to pick out with any decent pair of headphones.Kindly share us your components in the chain...thank you
On some level I'm quite sure the crew at Schiit understand that their tube products are essentially gimmicks catering to subjectivists who prefer a "euphonic" sound over an accurate sound. But Schiit components are mixed bag.Disappointing product for Schiit, who make some good components. But it has tubes, so what would you expect?
I suspect high-distortion amps like this are attractive to people who are looking for a "mellowed" sound and don't really like accurate reproduction. But of course I have absolutely no evidence to support this.
We should be skeptical of any measurement.