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Sabaj D4 Review (DAC & Amp)

Rate this DAC & HP Amp

  • 1. Poor (headless panther)

    Votes: 10 6.4%
  • 2. Not terrible (postman panther)

    Votes: 102 65.0%
  • 3. Fine (happy panther)

    Votes: 45 28.7%
  • 4. Great (golfing panther)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

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Garrincha

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as long as they can get it. what is wrong with that. As far as i know they are a "for profit" company.
Kudo's to them for pulling the wool over peoples eyes. Buyers do not have a gun stuck to their heads. It is by choice (at least in the US)
While it may be legal, it is still a rip-off and demonstrates that Chord cannot be considered a serious company (like unfortunately so many in the audio business). But ASR is here to expose them!
 

Garrincha

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Maybe it say about Chord that they feel these few extra dBs of SINAD don't make their product any better?
It's funny though that the behaviour at -300db seems to make a huge audible difference!
 

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It's funny though that the behaviour at -300db seems to make a huge audible difference!
? Sorry you must be having insight thatI don’t have. Anyway, this thread isn’t about Chord.
 
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Any chance you could measure new version of good old FiiO E10K? They made E10K-TC based on XMOS XUF208 + PCM5102
That sounds cool.
Again tough, and I am not saying that to defend the Dave, but define "Better Engineering" For a product made to listen to audio content, is focusing your engineering intelligence and money on something nobody can hear good engineering? In my book, good engineering is problem solving.
Depends on if it is audible or not. It is hard to say one way or the other, technically it could be audible upto -120db. After that it is scientifically proven to not be audible.
Yes I was not talking price.Which dongle?
That new Moondrop one with 118 SINAD....

The THX Onyx gets close though for 1/100th of the price lol
 

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I have been running this little dac amp for many years.

It doesnt look too bad turned on with blue ambient light bar.

The filter settings are audible to me.

It also powers 600ohm beyers fine for my pain threshold.

It sounds fine to me.

Maybe at some stage i might upgrade to one of those a 2022 series from sabaj.

I still think it measures pretty good for what it is.
 

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At this price level, it's a "candidate" for a rather low-to mid-end PC/TV setup, and for this it's good enough IMHO.
What would put me off is the odd design, and the lack of remote control(?)
Is it just me, or is the slightly-trapezeoid design some sort of tribute to that French triumph, the superb and affordable TotalDac?
 

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Is it just me, or is the slightly-trapezeoid design some sort of tribute to that French triumph, the superb and affordable TotalDac?
Haha, yes, a certain similarity is there
however, tributes to epic fails are not widespread ;)
 

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Haha, yes, a certain similarity is there
however, tributes to epic fails are not widespread ;)
I doubt that sabaj knew anything about how bad it was.
 

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Well, the Shanling was first of all a remeasurement and furthermore is a dongle and not a desktop DAC, a different category. The age does not count if the item is still for sale as the actual flagship, which is the case for the Chord DAVE. If you are saying it is obvious that any cheap chinese DAC beats the Chord flagship, what does this say about Chord?
I think it says more about consumers. Wealth disparity drives many purchases that we see as utterly ridiculous. Brand and marketing direct those purchases, along with what 'experts' have influence on you. Perhaps the vendors should be held accountable somehow, but I think I'm personally okay with a little rich-bait, unless I'm missing some real harm in this.

Oh and for anyone wanting a good SINAD db/$ laugh from this Sabaj, it genuinely outperforms the listed distortion spec of the Nagra HD DAC X, yours for $65,000 :p
 

Jimster480

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I think it says more about consumers. Wealth disparity drives many purchases that we see as utterly ridiculous. Brand and marketing direct those purchases, along with what 'experts' have influence on you. Perhaps the vendors should be held accountable somehow, but I think I'm personally okay with a little rich-bait, unless I'm missing some real harm in this.

Oh and for anyone wanting a good SINAD db/$ laugh from this Sabaj, it genuinely outperforms the listed distortion spec of the Nagra HD DAC X, yours for $65,000 :p
65k? Haha what a literal joke!
 

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I used this thing in my TV setup for a while, and it was definitely fine though the headphone output left a lot to be desired. Glad to see it was certainly a passable DAC, but you can definitely do better now.
 

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65k? Haha what a literal joke!
Yup! They really give you value with the 37 separate internal power supplies. The thing takes more power than many amplifiers...
 

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