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Aha, well. They have some 'splainin to do.
Aha, well. They have some 'splainin to do.
I know that.They are hardly "monitors".
But they do.I wish people would stop calling every pissant pair of tiny bookshelf speakers "monitors". It's just pathetic.
I know that.
But they do.Monitors is now a very common word (of course improperly) used to describe little bookshelf speakers. Whatever they are passive, from consumer top brands, or designed for a professional purposes.
Changed to "bookshelf", anyway.
The effect you describe does not happen irl, the offset is too small and the drivers are too close together for it to happen. The advantage of offset tweeters in nearfield is that you can control the width of the soundstage by placing the tweeters on the inner or the outer side. It's handy when your monitor or your desk size doesn't allow you to put the speakers close/wide enough. And, of course, it helps controlling the edge diffraction.However, these monitors are clearly designed for desktop use, and offset tweeters at nearfield distance is not good for anything. In the nearfield you will hear the soundstage get more narrow and more wide as the sounds pass through the x-over range. The more complex the music, the more jumping around the soundstage will do.
The effect you describe does not happen irl, the offset is too small and the drivers are too close together for it to happen. The advantage of offset tweeters in nearfield is that you can control the width of the soundstage by placing the tweeters on the inner or the outer side. It's handy when your monitor or your desk size doesn't allow you to put the speakers close/wide enough. And, of course, it helps controlling the edge diffraction.
I have a pair, in fact, they use the same tweeters as these SMSLs. I've never had this problem with them.Get a pair of offset tweeter speakers, play music with drum cymbals in them. You can hear the soundstage width shift as the cymbals ring out.
I have a pair, in fact, they use the same tweeters as these SMSLs. I've never had this problem with them.
They are 5 inch, maybe with 6.5 or 8 inch speakers it would be noticeable, but I doubt that.
Maybe you prefer more soundstage, so you need some reflections?I'm glad they work for you. Getting a good sounding desktop system has been the bane of my existance. I keep going back to some old mission 760 speakers that have a well damped textile tweeter. I have tried just about every type of speaker/drivers at my desktop and just can't get the sound I want.
Nearfield and SQ just don't mix well, IMHO.
Not sure if it's something you tried before(or have space for) but for me putting my speakers on floor stands and setting them behind and to the sides of my desk really helped make everything work. But I have fairly oversized speakers for regular desk use, and the space to have my desk away from the wall with some wasted space behind it, so it's probably not a universal solution.I'm glad they work for you. Getting a good sounding desktop system has been the bane of my existance. I keep going back to some old mission 760 speakers that have a well damped textile tweeter. I have tried just about every type of speaker/drivers at my desktop and just can't get the sound I want.
Nearfield and SQ just don't mix well, IMHO.
I have done that, and it works pretty good for music but if I want to enjoy a movie or media it is too distracting having a normal PC monitor and 5 foot wide speaker set up.Not sure if it's something you tried before(or have space for) but for me putting my speakers on floor stands and setting them behind and to the sides of my desk really helped make everything work. But I have fairly oversized speakers for regular desk use, and the space to have my desk away from the wall with some wasted space behind it, so it's probably not a universal solution.
Fyi Thomas and stereo has done a review in youtube
Well, that's a hell of a useful first comment, for sure...So, none of you prolific commenters have auditioned these speakers? That’s worse than useless. AudioSCIENCEREVIEW, remember. I’d love to read impressions from someone with actual first-hand knowledge.
"Nice" first post, welcome to ASR.So, none of you prolific commenters have auditioned these speakers? That’s worse than useless. AudioSCIENCEREVIEW, remember. I’d love to read impressions from someone with actual first-hand knowledge.