Roland68
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Yes, of course. Only the outer part of the plug is changed, the light guide remains the same.
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S.M.S.L PO100, PO100 PRO & PO100 AK - Measurements (Digital Interfaces & DAC)
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Yes, 3.5mm to TOSLINK is just a physical adapter - it's an optical signal all the way, unaltered.
I wish I had an answer to your PO100 problem. I can only say that I use a PO100 Pro (purchased only because the PO100 was discontinued/unavailable at the time) to connect my 2012 Mac mini running MacOS Catalina (OS 10.15, the most recent it can run officially) to the rest of my system. It converts USB to SPDIF coax, but it works fine doing USB to TOSLINK as well. I would guess that @Roland68 has the most likely answer: just upgrade the operating system.
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I bought this Macbook to use for DJ’ing. I had a terrible incident one night after upgrading the system, the program I use called Serato, didn’t like the update and kept crashing and glitching during a big gig that caused me great embarrassment and financial loss. I developed a fear of system updating and vowed never to risk that happening again. Here I am 10 years later with a laptop that’s never once been updated. I tried to do it a few years ago but didn’t have enough memory. Will look into backing it all up and giving it a long overdue update.
Thank you very much for taking the time to help. Will certainly be buying a Toslink to 3.5mm adapter.
Roland68
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Unfortunately, Serato is known for such problems and it has happened a few times, but it was always a problem on Serato's side.
On my old MacBook Pro mid 2012 with macOS 10.15.7, the PO100 AK and Pro work perfectly over USB.
The XMOS XU chipsets for USB have been supported since 10.6.4 (without drivers), so the PO100 should actually work for you.
If you have selected the PO100 on your MacBook, does the Toslink output light up red?
If you want to update your MacBook, I would recommend a clean install on such an old productive device. Please remember to back up your data.
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Roland, I can tell you are a great problem solver!
I checked and the Toslink lights up red when only partially pushed in but when I push it in enough for the MacBook to read it, the light goes out. I did the same with the iMac and the light stays lit. What do you deduce from the evidence?
May I pick your brains on backing up the MacBook? Is there a way to back up iTunes so that it would extrapolate to a new laptop as currently is with all playlists as I have arranged them? Please forgive my lack of knowledge on the subject, I’m still surprised by the optical 3.5mm jack! So many occasions over the years I could have utilised it. I just bought a plug for £2.60 lol.
Roland68
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The PO100 Pro is the same XMOS XU316 USB interface that is built into your SU-10.
It wouldn't change anything, not even in the sound.
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Thank you Roland68
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Hi,
I got my SMSL PO100 Pro. Using it with Topping D90(MQA).
The Coaxial works great.
I2S (IIS) is working but Pin16 needs to be covered by tape. DSD set to Pin14. DSD is NOT working. I could not get it to work.
I can play DSD files ONLY if I convert them to PCM (via Roon).
If there is anyone out there who was succesful in getting the IIS to work with Native DSD please let me (us) know.
BTW. D90(MQA) is working great. If I were to upgrade which way should I go Gustard X30, Gustard R26, Topping D90 Discrete or...?
I got my SMSL PO100 Pro. Using it with Topping D90(MQA).
The Coaxial works great.
I2S (IIS) is working but Pin16 needs to be covered by tape. DSD set to Pin14. DSD is NOT working. I could not get it to work.
I can play DSD files ONLY if I convert them to PCM (via Roon).
If there is anyone out there who was succesful in getting the IIS to work with Native DSD please let me (us) know.
BTW. D90(MQA) is working great. If I were to upgrade which way should I go Gustard X30, Gustard R26, Topping D90 Discrete or...?
I have huge problems with the PO100.
At first, playback was severely disturbed. Then I tried a bit and deactivated the safe mode once and suddenly the output was flawless. However, when Safe Mode was activated, Windows 10 crashed. Scrolling no longer worked at times, the cursor could no longer be moved partly and programs could no longer be opened and closed, or only with an extreme time delay.
When playing high data rates via Tidal (above 48 kHz), there were frequent problems. Especially when jumping back and forth between and within tracks, the output was suddenly completely distorted and you had to pause briefly to correct it.
The sample rate couldn't be fixed either and kept setting itself to the highest value which also varied, I don't know if this is normal!?
Of course, the latest driver and firmware were installed.
Has anyone ever experienced things like that with this device?
At first, playback was severely disturbed. Then I tried a bit and deactivated the safe mode once and suddenly the output was flawless. However, when Safe Mode was activated, Windows 10 crashed. Scrolling no longer worked at times, the cursor could no longer be moved partly and programs could no longer be opened and closed, or only with an extreme time delay.
When playing high data rates via Tidal (above 48 kHz), there were frequent problems. Especially when jumping back and forth between and within tracks, the output was suddenly completely distorted and you had to pause briefly to correct it.
The sample rate couldn't be fixed either and kept setting itself to the highest value which also varied, I don't know if this is normal!?
Of course, the latest driver and firmware were installed.
Has anyone ever experienced things like that with this device?
Roland68
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That sounds more like a problem with the PC and/or operating system.
I would deactivate or better yet uninstall everything that has to do with audio drivers and software.
Also check whether anything is causing high load.
But the easiest thing is to try the PO100 on another PC or Mac.
OK, then I'll try uninstalling the Realtek onboard sound driver and Asio4All to see if that helps.
The culprit has been found, thanks again for the tip.
The process of elimination ultimately revealed, that it was the ASIO4ALL driver, so I cannot recommend this combination from my side.
The bizarre thing is, uninstalling this driver alone is not enough, the problems continue to occur ... You also have to uninstall and reinstall the Xmos driver afterwards.
Fortunately, there are no problems with WASAPI.
The interference when playing high data rates still occurs occasionally, but extremely rarely and I couldn't say, whether the cause might be Tidal or my not particularly high-quality Toslink cable.
As I have to activate the exclusive mode on Tidal, so that the transferred data rate is displayed, could this perhaps be the reason why, the sample rate automatically sets itself to a certain value!?
The process of elimination ultimately revealed, that it was the ASIO4ALL driver, so I cannot recommend this combination from my side.
The bizarre thing is, uninstalling this driver alone is not enough, the problems continue to occur ... You also have to uninstall and reinstall the Xmos driver afterwards.
Fortunately, there are no problems with WASAPI.
The interference when playing high data rates still occurs occasionally, but extremely rarely and I couldn't say, whether the cause might be Tidal or my not particularly high-quality Toslink cable.
As I have to activate the exclusive mode on Tidal, so that the transferred data rate is displayed, could this perhaps be the reason why, the sample rate automatically sets itself to a certain value!?
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For what it's worth, I've never managed to get the ASIO4ALL driver to work properly.
I gave up on it some time ago, although I did try it again recently without success (tried on a new installation of Windows so no legacy drivers lurking).
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Roland68
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What you describe with the drivers is unfortunately a typical problem.
Do you have the new PO100? So the 2024 version?
Have you already installed the new firmware V3.84 from December 31, 2024?
Yes and yes, I only got the part a few days ago. The new firmware was already installed.
Roland68
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Which DAC do you use with the PO100?
The PO100 connects the PC to a Wiim Amp Pro (ESS ES9038Q2M DAC).
The PC is pretty old and has no Toslink output.
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