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Roon Music Player and Library Management Software Review

DSJR

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Why do you then think then the ENTIRE professional audio recording world use 20/48 or higher? There are NO professional audio equipment on the market that is limited to 16/44.1.

#think

#show-evidence

A mastering engineer pal told me the extra bit depth and so on was to help in the editing side and nothing else. Early digital editing seemingly messed with the last couple of bits in a 16/44 scenario I gather, but even that has been sorted now I think.
 

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Why do you then think then the ENTIRE professional audio recording world use 20/48 or higher? There are NO professional audio equipment on the market that is limited to 16/44.1.

#think

#show-evidence

Well, there is certainly DBT evidence that only a very few listeners can tell hi-res from redbook, and only on certain types of material.

http://archimago.blogspot.com/2020/07/summer-musings-post-hi-res-audio-why-hi.html
https://www.aes.org/journal/toc/AES-Sep2007TOC.cfm

That being said, the truncation to Airplay’s bit-depth (which is different from two good recordings in redbook and hi-res) is likely not a good thing, as you say.
 

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Here is the 2007 paper you mention, which I had read (I'm a AES member).

It reminds me the time when Ray Doby came to Abbey Road to demonstrate his noise reduction system back in the late 60s. Dolby cascaded two of his units back-to-back and to prove us that we cannot hear the difference in A/B tests. We all agreed.

That was then; we now know that if we listened long enough we would have heard the difference. When it comes to testing psycho-acoustic performance, A/B testing fails miserably. You need to listen long periods of time to notice the differences.
 
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I wanted to try out ROON last week, started my 14 day trial and because I had to give them my credit card data I thought it would be a good idea to cancel the subscription directly. (Didn´t want to forget to cancel and pay for a subscription if I don´t like it.)
Unfortunately this instantly cancels the trial as well. Not the most userfriendly option for a 14 day trial...
 

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@amirm Forgive me if it is there but I can't find it: Have you tested the quality of Roon with an AP loop-back or similar? Asking for a "friend".
 

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If you take the lifetime licence, do you get lifetime access to all new releases or are you restricted to fixed period for updates?
Can't find anywhere where this is explicitly stated.
 

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If you take the lifetime licence, do you get lifetime access to all new releases or are you restricted to fixed period for updates?
Can't find anywhere where this is explicitly stated.
Unless they change their current T&Cs, you would get the benefit of all of future updates. The people who went Lifetime 5+ years ago are still receiving the current updates.
 

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Here is the 2007 paper you mention, which I had read (I'm a AES member).

It reminds me the time when Ray Doby came to Abbey Road to demonstrate his noise reduction system back in the late 60s. Dolby cascaded two of his units back-to-back and to prove us that we cannot hear the difference in A/B tests. We all agreed.

That was then; we now know that if we listened long enough we would have heard the difference. When it comes to testing psycho-acoustic performance, A/B testing fails miserably. You need to listen long periods of time to notice the differences.
Care to backup the bold and underlined part with studies or at least some peer reviewed documents? Any documents ?
 
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