Room treatment with all diffusers and/or scatterers.

[PristineSound]

Here is a picture of the Magico listening room. There are a lot of rooms I've seen with all diffusers and scatterers

Based on the mild knowledge I have with room treatment, this does not look like something that will work, it would kill any imaging.

Your thoughts?

 

[Flaesh]

knowledge

Acoustic Absorbers and Diffusers. Theory, design and application. Trevor J. Cox. University of Salford, UK and. Peter D'Antonio. RPG Diffusor Systems Inc., USA
MyRoom Design white paper Zorica Davidovic, Bogic Petrovic
And a very short primer https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/sos-guide-control-room-design

Regarding the Magico room, see Svanå Miljöteknik AB https://diffusor.com and discussions about it.

 

[PristineSound]

Acoustic Absorbers and Diffusers. Theory, design and application. Trevor J. Cox. University of Salford, UK and. Peter D'Antonio. RPG Diffusor Systems Inc., USA
MyRoom Design white paper Zorica Davidovic, Bogic Petrovic
And a very short primer https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/sos-guide-control-room-design

Regarding the Magico room, see Svanå Miljöteknik AB https://diffusor.com and discussions about it.

Thanks, will review.

 

[babadono]

All diffusion? I know nothing but my gut feeling is like yours. You will still get the direct sound from the loudspeakers but reflected sound will be all non coherent. IMHO better to absorb all (or most)direct reflection at first reflection points from loudspeakers between MLP and speakers. Diffuse behind MLP. Reverb can always be added (I know sacrilege!).

 

[Blockader]

Here is a picture of the Magico listening room. There are a lot of rooms I've seen with all diffusers and scatterers

Based on the mild knowledge I have with room treatment, this does not look like something that will work, it would kill any imaging.

Your thoughts?

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Actually, it's quite the opposite. When done correctly, this is arguably the best acoustic treatment approach possible. It allows only direct sound and very late reflections, achieving a rare combination of clarity and spaciousness: precise imaging from the direct sound, paired with a natural sense of depth from the late reflections.

If you look at the impulse response of Blackbird Studios (the studio in the third image, bottom), you can see an exceptionally clean impulse response alongside a highly consistent direct sound and reflections profile. For more on the underlying principles, look into ambechoic chamber design.
Here is the impulse response of Blackbird studio:

This is pretty much textbook perfect. This is exactly what ambechoic chamber design is about : you're not killing the room energy entirely like a dead absorptive treatment would instead, you're scattering it into a controlled, uniform late field. The ear interprets the strong initial peak as a precise, localizable source, while the smooth diffuse tail adds spaciousness without muddying the image.

 

[PristineSound]

Actually, it's quite the opposite. When done correctly, this is arguably the best acoustic treatment approach possible. It allows only direct sound and very late reflections, achieving a rare combination of clarity and spaciousness: precise imaging from the direct sound, paired with a natural sense of depth from the late reflections.

If you look at the impulse response of Blackbird Studios (the studio in the third image, bottom), you can see an exceptionally clean impulse response alongside a highly consistent direct sound and reflections profile. For more on the underlying principles, look into ambechoic chamber design.
Here is the impulse response of Blackbird studio:

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This is pretty much textbook perfect. This is exactly what ambechoic chamber design is about : you're not killing the room energy entirely like a dead absorptive treatment would instead, you're scattering it into a controlled, uniform late field. The ear interprets the strong initial peak as a precise, localizable source, while the smooth diffuse tail adds spaciousness without muddying the image.

First time hearing the term ambechoic chamber, you learn something new every day.

 

[Flaesh]

First time hearing the term ambechoic chamber

Ugh , you haven't even read The SOS Guide To Control Room Design yet