Review of the Michael Jackson's album Thriller between 21 versions including Vinyls, CDs, cassettes, SACD, Streaming, MOFI releases, 360RA

[dasdoing]

I think he is very playful in his covers, and they are not meant very seriously, but i don't think it is disrespectful. So much effort went into this...

he is showing off, and that's the purpouse of his channel. but in the video you posted it's waaaaaay too much. it also doesn't fit at all. I watched the Sultans Of Swing one and the A-ha one and those are great.
I think the double bass would fit much better to Smooth Criminal

 

[dasdoing]

I think the double bass would fit much better to Smooth Criminal

he actually did it lol

 

[DanielT]

Somewhat OT for the sound quality itself. I found this interesting:
The technology that was used then in combination with creative music making. If you look at the video and understand how the bass in Billie Jean is structured, then you might even be able to hear the separate elements in the song, as Anthony Marinelli says you can hear. Try it out.

Anthony Marinelli - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[sarumbear]

This is why I won't pay for any streaming service that doesn't universally offer the choice of the original releases instead of forcing remasters with destroyed dynamic range down our throats. Vote with your wallets.

You do know that it’s the labels who decide what the service will stream, don’t you?

 

[GaryH]

Yet Qobuz manages to offer the original releases for most albums, whereas most other streaming services don't. Whether that's a decision purely by the labels or negotiated with Qobuz is immaterial.

 

[Timcognito]

Yet Qobuz manages to offer the original releases for most albums, whereas most other streaming services don't. Whether that's a decision purely by the labels or negotiated with Qobuz is immaterial.

Qobuz has the original, 25th and 40th anniversary versions. HE HE

 

[GaryH]

Exactly, they offer the choice so the user can decide, instead of the user only able to listen to remasters with crippled dynamic range on most other streaming services.

 

[dasdoing]

Somewhat OT for the sound quality itself. I found this interesting:
The technology that was used then in combination with creative music making. If you look at the video and understand how the bass in Billie Jean is structured, then you might even be able to hear the separate elements in the song, as Anthony Marinelli says you can hear. Try it out.

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Anthony Marinelli - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

not that I knew what it was, but I always heard those few minimoog notes seperatly.

 

[dasdoing]

not that I knew what it was, but I always heard those few minimoog notes seperatly.

also that synthclavier is not playing in the intro, so there is the 3rd.
the analog synth is probably impossible to hear seperatly

 

[Jimbob54]

Qobuz has the original, 25th and 40th anniversary versions. HE HE

So does Spotify ,Amazon and Tidal. All 4 services seem to offer the same versions . For some reason Qobuz and Tidal have 2 versions of the 25th anniversary edition. I know not how that differs.

Same situation for another classic- Dark Side of the Moon. IME the streaming services predominantly seem to all offer the same versions as each other. Interestingly, only the 2011 remaster and the anniversary editions- no one inc Qobuz seems to have earlier versions.

 

[SMc]

not that I knew what it was, but I always heard those few minimoog notes seperatly.

Interesting! I remember record reviews praising that bass riff.

 

[dasdoing]

So does Spotify ,Amazon and Tidal. All 4 services seem to offer the same versions . For some reason Qobuz and Tidal have 2 versions of the 25th anniversary edition. I know not how that differs.

Same situation for another classic- Dark Side of the Moon. IME the streaming services predominantly seem to all offer the same versions as each other. Interestingly, only the 2011 remaster and the anniversary editions- no one inc Qobuz seems to have earlier versions.

it's mostly up to the distributors, not the platforms

 

[dasdoing]

Interesting! I remember record reviews praising that bass riff.

it is very clever. that synthclavier starts muted, than it comes in in 2 stages, at first quiet at the start of the 1st verse, and than gets louder on the second part of the first verse

EDIT: nope. Swedien rode that fader through the whole song. he makes it louder when there are no vocals, only to bring it down again when there is singing

 

[EJ3]

Which service is that?

The one that has yet to exist.

 

[Jimbob54]

The one that has yet to exist.

I'm less picky than some. I prefer to experience new content that's readily available than worry too much about absolute quality of any given track /album.

 

[EJ3]

I'm less picky than some. I prefer to experience new content that's readily available than worry too much about absolute quality of any given track /album.

Generally I have in my possession the version that I want.
Which is part of why I don't stream. I don't have to worry about which version that the streaming services have or don't have.
My 2 main goals for 2024 is:
A. to digitize what I have onto CD's:
I have 2 (SONY RCD-500C CD Player/Recorders with a 5-CD/dual deck with 4x high speed dubbing, Records CD-Recordable and CD-Rewritable discs, CD, CD-R, CD-RW, MP3 playback capable, SBM - Super Bit Mapping recording, Inputs: Analog RCA, Digital Optical / Outputs: Analog RCA, Digital Optical).
One of these has only been out of the box to check it's functionality. It is otherwise new.
Each one of these is typically good for making 800 CD's
B. Also to digitize what I have to FLAC files in a NAS server setup.
Once that is done, I will be streaming from my own files.
And then I will consider the available steaming services to see if I might get one of them.

 

[Jimbob54]

Generally I have in my possession the version that I want.
Which is part of why I don't stream. I don't have to worry about which version that the streaming services have or don't have.
My 2 main goals for 2024 is:
A. to digitize what I have onto CD's:
I have 2 (SONY RCD-500C CD Player/Recorders with a 5-CD/dual deck with 4x high speed dubbing, Records CD-Recordable and CD-Rewritable discs, CD, CD-R, CD-RW, MP3 playback capable, SBM - Super Bit Mapping recording, Inputs: Analog RCA, Digital Optical / Outputs: Analog RCA, Digital Optical).
One of these has only been out of the box to check it's functionality. It is otherwise new.
Each one of these is typically good for making 800 CD's
B. Also to digitize what I have to FLAC files in a NAS server setup.
Once that is done, I will be streaming from my own files.
And then I will consider the available steaming services to see if I might get one of them.

Silly question. How do you find music that you want to buy? I used to spend silly money buying cds based on reviews with the odd referral from friends or heard on decent radio stations. Streaming saved me a fortune as it merged discovery and "ownership" (though granted, I own nothing in streaming, but the music is in "my" library)

I totally get why, if you are buying the disc/vinyl, you want the best version you can get.

Anyway, suffice to say I had a sea change in my thinking about music when I went over to streaming. I initially ripped cds to FLAC but found it's just easier to get a decent streaming sub and use for everything everywhere. I still have the flacs should I ever get the hankering to listen to some of the few albums that aren't online but that's rare. Don't even need the pc on anymore, just a wiim mini into my dac. Or if mobile just straight out of my phone, no need to worry about onboard storage.

 

[Snoopy]

Silly question. How do you find music that you want to buy?

Depends on the genres that you like. But YouTube and Bandcamp have lots of stuff (Vinyl rips too). That is usually not on Streaming services (apple music seems to be the expectation for some stuff).

I have currently a lot of stuff that I purchased on CDs (mostly Japanese Jazz imports) but also lots of music purchased from Bandcamp and ototoy (Japanese online store for digital music).

But the stuff that is on streaming services is often only 44.1khz or 44.1khz mqa. While the Japanese online stores offer 96khz files here and there. For relative affordable prices (9-15 USD?).

Just yesterday I purchased 2 albums in 44.1khz that have been released the last time around 1972 on LP.

 

[Jimbob54]

Depends on the genres that you like. But YouTube and Bandcamp have lots of stuff (Vinyl rips too). That is usually not on Streaming services (apple music seems to be the expectation for some stuff).

I have currently a lot of stuff that I purchased on CDs (mostly Japanese Jazz imports) but also lots of music purchased from Bandcamp and ototoy (Japanese online store for digital music).

But the stuff that is on streaming services is often only 44.1khz or 44.1khz mqa. While the Japanese online stores offer 96khz files here and there. For relative affordable prices (9-15 USD?).

Just yesterday I purchased 2 albums in 44.1khz that have been released the last time around 1972 on LP.

Bandcamp is the default option should something I'm interested in not be on streaming. I always forget you can listen to pretty much everything ever recorded on youtube. It would have to be an old album I see reviewed somewhere that isnt on BC or streaming to get me to buy a physical copy. And at that point im probably not that fussy about the exact master- just want it as cheap as I can.

 

[dasdoing]

Silly question. How do you find music that you want to buy?

when I was a teen (beginning of the 90ies) I used to spent hours in music stores to listen to potential buys. there where booths where you could listen to them. I would take 15-20 CDs and ended up buying 2 or 3