Nothing new for sure, but still worth discussion (and also bitchingWhat is new about this?
Nothing, People have been bitching about loud mastering for decades now.
What is new about this?
Nothing, People have been bitching about loud mastering for decades now.
To be fair @Jean.Francois was invited to join ASR by a member so that this sort of discussion could happen here. I, for one, find it interestingPerhaps the new bit is the owner of a website starting a thread here to direct us to his website’s latest article. Self-promotion?
I could try to generate a more transparent file with the same DR reduction with a more professional limiter.
but anyhow @sweetsounds, the real question is: if tomorrow someone plays A or B for you, just one of them, could you identify which one it is?
also if he went for DR8 he might have left the kick untouched.
one could argument that any diference, no matter how tiny, is a reason to not limit, but on the other hand producers have to think about the mainstream listeners in the first place. if you take a sound system with a limited headroom and you want to play the song loud, the more dynamic track will cause distortion much earlier....in other words, it will sound worse.
chopped of 5.2dB of the peak with two instances of Ozone Maximizer: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bu9UnBwTdfr4mr9QYXGCkeWPW0ecqgUz/view?usp=sharing
I am no engineer, and I could have tried harder (one more instance?), but I am interested what you guys hear
It is relevant to how the negative effects of peak limiting are usually exaggerated in threads like this one. To not look far:Don't know, but is this really relevant?
Otherwise I could also eat half-rotten food
I only listened to it by switching tracks in Audacity, but it seems to me a tiny bit louder than the original. The feeling goes away after reducing its volume by 0.5 dB.I am no engineer, and I could have tried harder (one more instance?), but I am interested what you guys hear
I can tell you that substantial, in depth comparative listening at the time of their release.... when I worked in audio retail, with customers wanting to compare CD and Vinyl every single day (!) - they were not substantively different - differences between cartridges would account for a greater part of the difference than difference in the recording/mastering.I'm not intending to buy another copy, but which is 'correct?' - Original vinyl or original CD?
I would assume the early releases circa 1985 would be "correct". (I am in Australia, don't know whether there was a difference between Australian and other nation releases...)
Agreed. Very strange the new remaster. Can't listen to it.I was excited to see that this 2022 remaster from Dire Straits' catalog was released; very curious to see what they worked on with these gorgeous original recordings (Dire Straits' catalog of studio work is still a benchmark for stunning and damn near perfect audio recordings, in my opinion).
Checked out the 2022 remasters this morning... 5 seconds into "Sultans Of Swing" I was actually saying out loud, "Oh, no!! What's happened here?!" They absolutely destroyed the sound and integrity of the original recording for that song. It's distorted, muddy, and waaaay overcooked. I can't believe they would put this out there!
Listen to the original version from their self-titled album, and then flip to the 2022 compilation remaster. It's shocking. I didn't listen to the rest of the songs because I didn't want to get upset, lol. Maybe the rest of the songs were more tastefully done? But based on that intro track, I'll definitely stick with previous versions when I listen to Dire Straits.
(By the way, I listened to the 2022 remastered Sultans Of Swing on streaming. I don't know if the 2022 remastered vinyl is any different. Maybe something just went wrong with the files that were delivered to the streaming services.)
I wonder how the MFSL SACD version would compareOh, I have seen much worse. Try the various masters of Michael Jackson's Thriller...
I think they compress it so it would sound better on cheaper equipments and radio!Has anyone in the biz ever stated the reasons why they actually do this? Its obviously intentional . Is it so the recording "pops"/ "punches" on playback on decent systems which they assume people will prefer?
Or is it so people arent having to crank little bluetooth speakers in the quiet parts ?