solderdude
Grand Contributor
It's quite possible there are lots of folks around preferring the Schiit.
Nothing weird about that.
Most of the artifacts measured I consider inaudible or barely audible myself (not that I set any standards here)
VERY measurable though.
The reported preference seems to come from musicians and recording techs in this case. I think some of them should know what they are talking about. The usual wife is even included.
Amir measures and has nice equipment to do that with. It shows differences that are so well below any audible limits and don't think need to be questioned. When Amir recommends something or not based on measurements it is fine to do so.
As long as it is clear it is based on measurements.
When someone recommends a DAC based on their sonic preference this is fine too as long as it is clear it is based on sonic preference.
No need to bite each others head of.
Ethan's loopback test (20 loops) seems like a thing that should be done here. For the RME this is simple enough.
For the Schiit it is more difficult for 'golden eared' folks as one would need the well measuring but 'poor sounding' RME to record it.
Still I would recommend to do this. As he has a recording studio this is VERY easy to do as he MUST have another recording device that 'sounds great' so problem solved.
So after an hour or so looping recordings topazzo has 2 different recorded files (as said would be easy to do in a studio) that he can share with us.
These files can be analyzed to death by measurement buffs and golden eared counterparts.
Both can then tell which recording sounds/measures the best.
Surely that must have some 'truth looking appeal' that is easy to do and will interest any recording engineer.
problem solved.
So hereby my request to @topazzo
Can you do the loopback test and upload the files along with the original recording.
Use music that is very 'revealing' to you.
Nothing weird about that.
Most of the artifacts measured I consider inaudible or barely audible myself (not that I set any standards here)
VERY measurable though.
The reported preference seems to come from musicians and recording techs in this case. I think some of them should know what they are talking about. The usual wife is even included.
Amir measures and has nice equipment to do that with. It shows differences that are so well below any audible limits and don't think need to be questioned. When Amir recommends something or not based on measurements it is fine to do so.
As long as it is clear it is based on measurements.
When someone recommends a DAC based on their sonic preference this is fine too as long as it is clear it is based on sonic preference.
No need to bite each others head of.
Ethan's loopback test (20 loops) seems like a thing that should be done here. For the RME this is simple enough.
For the Schiit it is more difficult for 'golden eared' folks as one would need the well measuring but 'poor sounding' RME to record it.
Still I would recommend to do this. As he has a recording studio this is VERY easy to do as he MUST have another recording device that 'sounds great' so problem solved.
So after an hour or so looping recordings topazzo has 2 different recorded files (as said would be easy to do in a studio) that he can share with us.
These files can be analyzed to death by measurement buffs and golden eared counterparts.
Both can then tell which recording sounds/measures the best.
Surely that must have some 'truth looking appeal' that is easy to do and will interest any recording engineer.
problem solved.
So hereby my request to @topazzo
Can you do the loopback test and upload the files along with the original recording.
Use music that is very 'revealing' to you.
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