Yes and the comments before that. I could understand this kind of talk a few years ago when they were producing junk performing gear. Now that they have learned to buy a proper analyzer and optimize the design is the time they decide to complain this way? If they are this unhappy they should go back to their old days.What was classless was the 2 bits about Napoleon hands. Was that supposed to be you? It really indicated at the base level of the speaker.
Well it's apparently not water under the bridge. I would take it seriously but not so serious.Yes and the comments before that. I could understand this kind of talk a few years ago when they were producing junk performing gear. Now that they have learned to buy a proper analyzer and optimize the design is the time they decide to complain this way? If they are this unhappy they should go back to their old days.
I'm so glad I sold my jotunheim and ran as far away from schiit as I could.
For a second there I thought they were turning it around as far as performance and I'd end up loving a local audio company.
Yeah well if 1/2 of the company seems to disregard measurements, that doesn't give me much confidence.As far as performance, they have turned it around, Amir has said as much. They've produced some very good measuring gear in the last couple of years.
Yeah well if 1/2 of the company seems to disregard measurements, that doesn't give me much confidence.
It's really convenient that subjective review are coming out where 3 versions of the Yggdrasil are tested and the reviewer happens to prefer the one that measures the worse.
I'm not saying the jury is out for me personal.
Yes, what I don't want is them to stop making the ones with good measurements. So I think we aren't so much in disagreeance. Maybe I'm being harsh, but I've always had bad experiences with them. I was happy when the heresy came out.My take is. . . I couldn't care less if there's some curmudgeon railing against measurements, as long as they continue to engineer and produce good measuring products. There is room for both, I'm glad they are at least giving us a choice.
IMO he just chokes on giving credit to anyone for revealing problems in their products. Just a bunch of hand-waving to draw attention away from the fact that they used that info to improve the line. There's still also the fact that sadly the subjective buyers market is much larger than the objective side so to save face with that crowd they can't admit to the lessons taught.Yes and the comments before that. I could understand this kind of talk a few years ago when they were producing junk performing gear. Now that they have learned to buy a proper analyzer and optimize the design is the time they decide to complain this way? If they are this unhappy they should go back to their old days.
Mike phoo phoos the standard measurements as having little value talking about noise floors, distortion, etc and makes the comment that the Schiit line of products are different because they focus on time domain issues. So aren't there measurements that can be made to determine "time domain" performance or is this all technobabble and magic dust that can only be optimized with listening done by gold-eared guru's?
All in all a terrible waste of the 54:41 minutes of the short amount of time I have left on this earth. LOL
Are you sure it's all about you? The reality is the measurements vs. subjective debate has been going on for a while. The Audio Critic was doing battle in this territory decades before you. Regarding ASR prompting Schiit to design better I have wondered if the same isn't true for forum favorite Topping. It's seems they release an amp or dac measured here every other month with higher and higher Sinad using ASR's measurements as their guide. Topping has clued into the fact that it does seem to be all about Sinad here, despite a protest to the contrary in another thread. I don't blame them for exploiting that segment of the market just as Schiit did with the Heresy, but it's ok if Schiit has a different perspective from you with their other products. Topping's focus appears to be to tap into the faith here and has managed to cultivate a band of eager defenders who will pile on dissenters. When I joined, ASR seemed like a breath of fresh air, about as objective as I could have hoped. Now it seems like a cult. This is audio, you're not saving lives here.Yes and the comments before that. I could understand this kind of talk a few years ago when they were producing junk performing gear. Now that they have learned to buy a proper analyzer and optimize the design is the time they decide to complain this way? If they are this unhappy they should go back to their old days.
The whole infomercial layout of the Schiit interview with the "no class" reference to somebody with Napoleon hands was very unprofessional. Regardless of whom the slight is aimed at it was intolerable from a professional. That slight made me think twice about Schiit and now I will be thinking before recommending the product whereas before up to that very moment I was still recommending Schiit stuff over Topping product. Representing product and having priviledge means there are limitations as per what can be done, said and the rep must be responsible and show good intention.but it's ok if Schiit has a different perspective from you with their other products.
Saved me a ton of money though not having to do the guessing process while giving me great performance. I probably would have ended up with audio-gd or something instead of my rme adi 2 dac, d90se and benchmark hpa4.Are you sure it's all about you? The reality is the measurements vs. subjective debate has been going on for a while. The Audio Critic was doing battle in this territory decades before you. Regarding ASR prompting Schiit to design better I have wondered if the same isn't true for forum favorite Topping. It's seems they release an amp or dac measured here every other month with higher and higher Sinad using ASR's measurements as their guide. Topping has clued into the fact that it does seem to be all about Sinad here, despite a protest to the contrary in another thread. I don't blame them for exploiting that segment of the market just as Schiit did with the Heresy, but it's ok if Schiit has a different perspective from you with their other products. Topping's focus appears to be to tap into the faith here and has managed to cultivate a band of eager defenders who will pile on dissenters. When I joined, ASR seemed like a breath of fresh air, about as objective as I could have hoped. Now it seems like a cult. This is audio, you're not saving lives here.
Stop right there.My issue with the classic blind test approach is that it assumes that if one can not reliably tell a difference between two devices while rapidly switching between them while playing the same source, that it must mean that they sound identical.
Mike was saying they prefer to focus on time domain issues What’s in the time domain to focus on? Impulse response? The beauty of sine wave on oscilloscope screen? Anything else?