So much time has passed and seems like there is still no alternative on the market with matching performance, so sad. I've seen someone selling a never unboxed one for 10 000€ recently, how crazy is that?
Honestly man the Panasonic 820 is great. I bought both[820/9000] to test, and realistically the CD player in the Panasonic isn’t amazing to me. I will say though I have never owned a high end or any stand alone CD player. So my opinion is fairly biasedSo much time has passed and seems like there is still no alternative on the market with matching performance, so sad. I've seen someone selling a never unboxed one for 10 000€ recently, how crazy is that?
€10,000??? This is too much. 3 or max 4 but that's a lot anyway, but 10,000? Crazy people. If I remember correctly, a new one cost 2500 Euro or something like that.So much time has passed and seems like there is still no alternative on the market with matching performance, so sad. I've seen someone selling a never unboxed one for 10 000€ recently, how crazy is that?
Maybe old, but what is better for cinema room, for movies and concerts?The Oppo 205 is old technology now even though I own one and love it. I wouldn't pay anything now to own one. Digital technology just keeps advancing even though subscribers to ASR say you can't hear the difference but it measures beyond hearing!!!!
That’s what I was pointing out, they did excellent though. Seems like if you bought it when it first came out you got easily 8 years of use with no problems tech wise.The Oppo 205 is old technology now even though I own one and love it. I wouldn't pay anything now to own one. Digital technology just keeps advancing even though subscribers to ASR say you can't hear the difference but it measures beyond hearing!!!!
I think again, at our level of experience and market situation, that it’s a bit over thought.Maybe old, but what is better for cinema room, for movies and concerts?
Do you know what the OPPO 203 or 205 have and what the Reavon 200 don't have? OPPO looks great because it has the ability to add subtitles from a flash drive.I think again, at our level of experience and market situation, that it’s a bit over thought.
The units have digital output. We have cheap well implemented dacs, just hook it up to that.
I bought the 9000 with no intention of using analog outputs. It’s jitter performance was better so I wanted to see if there was any noticeable difference using the same dac. The 820 and 9000 sound the same, no blind test so take it for what it is.
Movies wise it was the same. The odd thing is I noticed the 9000 would ghost on my tested play back and the 820 didn’t. Dune was the movie.
Besides that video quality was exactly the same. Also my tv isn’t cheap, so if anything the player is the bottleneck. Also it made hdr content better with the Panasonic hdr enhancement without degradation, as shown/tested in reviews.
Okay, but what if we want good video player, not DAC? Like I wrote, subtitles from flash drive is great option.not sure why anyone would pay 4000-5000$ for this, let alone $10.000. If you want the sound quality alone, audio HDMI out => extractor => a good DAC would beat this and cost ~500 or so
It was a very Sad day when they announced that they were leaving the market. Still not a clear competitor for audio/videophiles. The options and configurations were major bonuses over and above the high quality Audio/Video processing. Still using my Oppo and love it.Okay, but what if we want good video player, not DAC? Like I wrote, subtitles from flash drive is great option.
Throw ub820 in and you are still less than 1000$. And hdr optimizer would beat the subtitle flash drive any day. And if that is important to you, you might want to explore media player.Okay, but what if we want good video player, not DAC? Like I wrote, subtitles from flash drive is great option.
Indeed that's exactly why I feel there is no alternative, playing SACD is main feature for me and other players on the market are either ridiculously expensive high-end bs or poorly made with lackluster conversion performanceUnless you have a huge selection of cds the oppo honestly makes no sense to me. This would also mean a lot of SACD’s/DVD audio. Since that’s the only thing Panasonic can’t do
1. Built like a tank, high quality components and transport mechanismnot sure why anyone would pay 4000-5000$ for this, let alone $10.000
Of course, I would never spend this much on a disc player, that's exactly why I'm venting my frustration that there is currently nothing that matches Oppo 205 in all of it capabilities and features for a reasonable price. Why buy 4 devices when I could have all I need in 1 if only it was available.But $10.000 is outrageous
Yes very unfortunate!So much time has passed and seems like there is still no alternative on the market with matching performance, so sad. I've seen someone selling a never unboxed one for 10 000€ recently, how crazy is that?
I agree that technology changes very rapidly but if you look at Amir’s review and measurements for the DACs used in the OPPO and more importantly the implementation of these DACs it still is one of the best players out there, having said that I would never buy one on eBay at these absurd prices! Glad I bought mine from OPPO and it is still functioning very well.The Oppo 205 is old technology now even though I own one and love it. I wouldn't pay anything now to own one. Digital technology just keeps advancing even though subscribers to ASR say you can't hear the difference but it measures beyond hearing!!!!
The one I saw sold for 10k was "new", as in never even unboxed.?? Search shows most sell for $2-3K, with a few in the $5k range (one for $6k AUS) but none that have actually sold for $10k??
I think it was 1200$ on launchI could kick myself for not buying one when they first came out ($800 or so ?), even though I suspected it was End of Days for Oppo even then!
I got one from the first batch!The one I saw sold for 10k was "new", as in never even unboxed.
I think it was 1200$ on launch