May be it's my lack of more thorough knowledge on this topic but As long as an amp measures well, why do you care if its a/b or D or anything else?I don't like class D amplifiers.
Thanks Amir for measuring A / B.
As long as an amp measures well, why do you care if its a/b or D
They do actually. Very much so. That is, if you test properly and rely on sound alone as I do.Good measurements don't always necessarily make for good sound.
They do actually. Very much so. That is, if you test properly and rely on sound alone as I do.
May be it's my lack of more thorough knowledge on this topic but As long as an amp measures well, why do you care if its a/b or D or anything else?
Because they can't! Measurements are reliable and objective. Your listening tests are not. So when they don't agree, you should look to your listening test protocol first, not the measurements. Match levels and have someone test you blind 10 times and see if you can pick the one you like 8 out of 10 times. If you cannot then you are not able to tell them apart let alone have a preference for one.My own experience suggests otherwise, especially with DACs.
They can have low THD, noise and excellent SINAD but yet it still doesn't sound 'right' (no faults present).
Because they can't! Measurements are reliable and objective. Your listening tests are not.
Welcome to the club.I think we should agree to disagree!
I don't by any stretch of the imagination regard myself as one of those dreaded audiophiles who thinks he can hear things that are simply not there - I'm just going on my experience. I've built several DACs and preamps, and in the case of the DACs it's easy to ensure they are level matched by design (maintaining the filter characteristics of course) and I know what I've heard. My son has unwittingly commented on occasion that my system hasn't sounded right, and this is because I've had a 'bad' component in for testing (and he's not been aware of it) and yet he's heard the difference.
...have someone swap things around. You know what you heard...
I think you wandered into the wrong room
Curious if you can provide an example of a dac
I am sure if you can courier product to amir he could add to his testing queue then we would all have learnt something new. -I have an Audiolab Q DAC - it just doesn't sound as good as one would expect it to - and yet it measures fine (I've measured it myself).
There have been other commercial examples.
Well, What hi-fi would agree. Not that they are the definitive voice, but for them to publish a review and grant a component only 3 stars is rare.
If you would indulge the conversation, two questions:
1. Did you come to the conclusion of it's poor sonic merits BEFORE you read other impressions of poor sound?
2. How did you measure? What equipment are you using and can you publish the results of those measurements?
those measurements look fine