I’m continually surprised by the couch potato resistance to simply using an external HT bypass. Manual is cheap and easy, automated is a little DIY upfront....
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Review and Measurements of miniDSP SHD DAC, DSP And Streamer
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Sonnie
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I can't even begin to imagine why that would surprise anyone... otherwise why even bother with a remote control.
Remote is fine for constant ops (volume, mute, unmute, pause, resume, etc.). But for switching from a music listening session to a movie watching session manual is not a hard thing imo, but maybe for those that never need a potty break or drink refill maybe it is lol. And as mentioned you can have it automatically switch..I can't even begin to imagine why that would surprise anyone... otherwise why even bother with a remote control.
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I agree... been there and done that several times. I usually start with music... when I'm done and want to watch a movie or Netflix, I usually have to get up anyway, so not a big deal. However, I did order the remote RS-1 for ease of use and so that I don't have place the switcher where I can easily get to it for switching. I'd rather have it tucked in the back and out of the way. However, this really isn't the point, I'd rather not have another box in the loop, which is why I was trying so hard to get it to work, and it will work, but there are some risks associated with it that I'd rather not take.
Try explaining how to start a movie to your significant other and kids.
Ok first make sure the TV is on with input HDMI4 and the receiver is on with game input set, you did turn on the xbox, right? Good , OK turn on the amps but don't touch the preamp , then find the small black box near the amp and turn the knob from XLR2 to XLR3. No sound? ok come into my office and get me off the conference call and I'll come help , work can wait..
I find it easier to say just push the watch movie button on the only remote I leave out and everything will switch automatically.
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lol... So EVEN with the button that clearly reads "Go To Dish Satellite" and "Go To DVD Player" on the remote... I can't tell you the number of times I had to go to my parents house and fixe the TV. "Your dad has pressed some button on the remote and we can't get the TV to work."
My wife says when I die she'll have to hire someone to come figure out the system if she ever wants to use it.
My wife says when I die she'll have to hire someone to come figure out the system if she ever wants to use it.
SHD latency wrt HT bypass (credit to user dreite):
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...dsp-shd-dac-dsp-and-streamer.4286/post-416752
No remote, no box, no preamp latency switching (credit to user hayabusa):
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...dsp-shd-dac-dsp-and-streamer.4286/post-417398
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...dsp-shd-dac-dsp-and-streamer.4286/post-416752
No remote, no box, no preamp latency switching (credit to user hayabusa):
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...dsp-shd-dac-dsp-and-streamer.4286/post-417398
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The home grown switch is interesting.
I bought the ARX RS-1 and it automatically switches sources but is pricey at $273.
It does work with the trigger connection and no external power.
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I tried hayabusa’s method , the soldering is tricky but I got one cable working, I’m not confident of the mechanical reliability on my build, really think a small PCB would help but for now I’m using the RS-1. It’s transparent , invisible in my setup, and works.
If only the RS-1 had three channel support, can't leave out the subs for either bass managed 2.x or x.x (my mains are in a TERRIBLE location for bass reproduction, but room sounds great with integrated subs).
My Subs(and many others) have 2 inputs. I program my remote to set only one of my AVR and DAC to be on at one time. If they are both on there is no harm but subbass would bleed through from the other source.
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I guess I misunderstood your use case. I use the different presets for different EQ curves in my system. So I want the master volume to stay the same when I switch between the presets. I don't think there is a way to make the different presets hold at a different volumes.
EDIT: You can make two presets that are identical except one has a Output muted. For example, Config1 (preset 1):
Config2 (preset 2):
Is this what you'd like to do?
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And how well will the Monolith deal with the SHD's 24-25ms processing delay in Sonnie's room configuration. Monolith can handle up to 35ms, leaving only 10-11ms max for sub/surround physical speaker location differences?
Again why I usually always come back to the external HT bypass solution, when using a stereo preamp that makes it worth the hassle.
Again why I usually always come back to the external HT bypass solution, when using a stereo preamp that makes it worth the hassle.
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I will need to mute the sub output when using the HTP-1, so I'll use that preset/config for HT setup. I usually have two presets for listening, but I find I rarely change them... I end up sticking with one and roll with it.
The delay between my mains and sub right now is 4.7ms in the HTP-1, so once I setup the SHD, Dirac Live should pick up the extra delay and set it correctly. I will use Dirac for the HTP-1 and movies and TV streaming.
I'm pushing Tony hard at miniDSP on the HT Bypass option. If he did nothing but offer it as a software add-on option, he would be huge. If this next unit measures better than the first, he adds HT Bypass... boom... he will literally sell the snot out the SHD.
The delay between my mains and sub right now is 4.7ms in the HTP-1, so once I setup the SHD, Dirac Live should pick up the extra delay and set it correctly. I will use Dirac for the HTP-1 and movies and TV streaming.
I'm pushing Tony hard at miniDSP on the HT Bypass option. If he did nothing but offer it as a software add-on option, he would be huge. If this next unit measures better than the first, he adds HT Bypass... boom... he will literally sell the snot out the SHD.
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With Roon's more strict policing of the criteria breaking functionality with non-Certified hardware (e.g. NAD M33), I think it means new SHD's won't work with Roon any more until they get it fixed.
That's a bummer for me because I'm still looking for a Roon + Dirac combo device.
And NAD may drag their feet on cert because of BluOS competition.
Which leaves the SHD....but it sounds like there is no timeline for the SHD to be Roon Certified, either?
Bummer...
watchnerd
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I can only speak from my experience... see my roon endpoint... also shows uncertified. It works perfectly, including volume control, etc...
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Yes, fully RAAT and can group with other RAAT zones. I have had it for around 2 years I think. It is updated to all but the very latest software. I would create a support ticket with minidsp, to see if when it is shipped if it has a useable uncertified roon endpoint. I can’t see why it wouldn’t, but it would be good to ask To be certain.
mine works fine as a raat, and I bought it very recently. yes, groups work fine. and it's not airplay it's true ethernet roon streaming.
