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Review and Measurements of Crown XLS 1502 Amp

Not very much.

Some technical things. Automotive hardare. Tires - mixed - width is metric, rim is inches - mine are 215/60r15.

Have Soft Drinks in 2 liter bottles.

Medicine - milligram, cc, etc

That's about all.
Doesn't really matter (unles you need certain size tools for things [having beean automotive/heavy truck mechanic as a large part of my existance, I have always had both metric and standard (US) tools [the Old British Whitworth tools, not so much])
Conversion is just too easy, I cannot fathom why it might be a problem (even with temperature).
 
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A 500W stereo Hypex is around $700, the Crown is about $550. In the world of audio, I don't think of $150 as a considerable difference (and for tech specs the Hypex is far better than the Crown)?
That Hypex needs over 2V to reach full power, so a balanced DAC or preamp will be required. The Crown gets there with 1.4V. I drive it with a $250 MiniDSP. The Hypex would need a $600 balanced Flex for the same functionality. My 1502 is 7 or 8 years old and cost me $350 (plus sales tax) on sale. I will admit recent price increases have made it less desirable. However, they are usually available used on Craigslist.

edit: My poor memory said 1.6 v sensitivity when it was 1.4v.
 
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That Hypex needs over 2V to reach full power, so a balanced DAC or preamp will be required. The Crown gets there with 1.6V. I drive it with a $250 MiniDSP. The Hypex would need a $600 balanced Flex for the same functionality. My 1502 is 7 or 8 years old and cost me $350 (plus sales tax) on sale. I will admit recent price increases have made it less desirable. However, they are usually available used on Craigslist.
According to its spec, it should reach full output with 1.4V.... (on the balanced XLR inputs), and circa 1V on the RCA's? (for the XLSxxx2 with the dual input levels)
 
According to its spec, it should reach full output with 1.4V.... (on the balanced XLR inputs), and circa 1V on the RCA's? (for the XLSxxx2 with the dual input levels)
Well, 1.4V is the rated sensitivity for the xx00 series, the xx02 series has adjustable sensitivity between .7 and 1.4V.....though on my 1502 I've yet to need the .7 setting. (don't have that option on my various 1500s)
 
Well, 1.4V is the rated sensitivity for the xx00 series, the xx02 series has adjustable sensitivity between .7 and 1.4V.....though on my 1502 I've yet to need the .7 setting. (don't have that option on my various 1500s)
Setting the amp for high sensitivity causes a 6 dB loss of SNR. That setting might be useful if a notebook was used to drive it.
 
Well, 1.4V is the rated sensitivity for the xx00 series, the xx02 series has adjustable sensitivity between .7 and 1.4V.....though on my 1502 I've yet to need the .7 setting. (don't have that option on my various 1500s)
It is nice to have the adjustable sensitivity.... especially if we also have measurements of the THD for various output levels (as per amirm's measurements) - then we can tweak the gain to squeeze that little bit of additional performance from the setup.... (not that it would be audible, in all likelihood)
 
How should this sensitivity setting be adjusted for the Wiim Pro Plus when being used as a preamp?

Would it make a big difference if I use the Wiim's rca outputs or if I use coax output and go to an external dac (Topping E50) with balanced outputs?
 
How should this sensitivity setting be adjusted for the Wiim Pro Plus when being used as a preamp?
Set the Crown to Sensitivity: Normal (1.4V)

You can limit the WiiM's voltage to different levels in the WiiM Home App.

I recommend you start with the lowest voltage limit and go up from there, if volume is still too quiet at 100%.

Once you've found a voltage limit that is plenty loud enough at 100%, leave it there.

That ensures that should you accidentally set the WiiM's volume to max, the Crown won't damage your speakers or your hearing.

Would it make a big difference if I use the Wiim's rca outputs or if I use coax output and go to an external dac (Topping E50) with balanced outputs?
Balanced outputs may remove noise like mains hum or various EMI possibly picked up by the RCA cable.

If you cannot hear any of that noise with WiiM->RCA->Crown, then adding an E50 to the system would serve no purpose WRT sound quality.
 
How should this sensitivity setting be adjusted for the Wiim Pro Plus when being used as a preamp?

Would it make a big difference if I use the Wiim's rca outputs or if I use coax output and go to an external dac (Topping E50) with balanced outputs?
May be, but don't expect audible difference.
 
Set the Crown to Sensitivity: Normal (1.4V)

You can limit the WiiM's voltage to different levels in the WiiM Home App.

I recommend you start with the lowest voltage limit and go up from there, if volume is still too quiet at 100%.

Once you've found a voltage limit that is plenty loud enough at 100%, leave it there.

That ensures that should you accidentally set the WiiM's volume to max, the Crown won't damage your speakers or your hearing.


Balanced outputs may remove noise like mains hum or various EMI possibly picked up by the RCA cable.

If you cannot hear any of that noise with WiiM->RCA->Crown, then adding an E50 to the system would serve no purpose WRT sound quality.
Thank you very much!
So (just to be sure that I understand ) after setting the Crown's inout to normal level I have to:
1- Set Wiim Pro Plus' output voltage to minimum (200 mVrms)
2- Set Wiim's volume to maximum
3- If this is not loud enough, turn up output voltage until I reach a volume that I consider acceptable as a maximum

In the Wiim App there is a parameter called "volume limit" which allows to set a percentage. How should I set this one?
 
I'm getting a bit lost here since I have no familiarity with Wiim hardware. It certainly is popular with the ASR crowd.
 
Thank you very much!
So (just to be sure that I understand ) after setting the Crown's inout to normal level I have to:
1- Set Wiim Pro Plus' output voltage to minimum (200 mVrms)
2- Set Wiim's volume to maximum
3- If this is not loud enough, turn up output voltage until I reach a volume that I consider acceptable as a maximum

In the Wiim App there is a parameter called "volume limit" which allows to set a percentage. How should I set this one?
Doesn’t sound right
1. Min output would be 0
2./3. Max limit is up to you, I would set it to max, or fixed if there is such an option. That is if the wiim has vol control for use with poweramp directly. If use with a preamp or avr, then set to max because the avr will do the vol control.
 
That Hypex needs over 2V to reach full power, so a balanced DAC or preamp will be required. The Crown gets there with 1.4V. I drive it with a $250 MiniDSP. The Hypex would need a $600 balanced Flex for the same functionality. My 1502 is 7 or 8 years old and cost me $350 (plus sales tax) on sale. I will admit recent price increases have made it less desirable. However, they are usually available used on Craigslist.

edit: My poor memory said 1.6 v sensitivity when it was 1.4v.
For a load that only needs half of the 500W anyway, I don't see that making any real world difference (for 250W with his speakers, the Hypex only needs 1.46V input). The Crowns have NOWHERE near the DSP functionality of miniDSP's, entirely different league. RCA's will drive either the Crown or Hypex just fine (its my own and many others here use case).

Wow posters so sensitive/defensive on the Crown here. In case y'all missed it, I own and use (2) XLS1502's daily for I think a decade now (as well as miniDSP's). It's not like I am dissing them, it's just that someone here asked about a high power Hypex that was not substantially more expensive than the Crown, and I pointed said amp out. And price wise, everyone here comparing used Crowns against new Hypex, an unfair comparison (compare new with new, used with used to be fair). I guess I lucked out, I got my Crowns for $225 and $330 :) .

Peace out.
 
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Can someone breakdown the difference between the (2) input sensitivity settings on the Crown? .755 vs. 1.4v ? Why/when use one setting vs. the other? I've confused myself over this detail. I thought 1.4v was for using RCAs in a home audio application? unclear why you would choose .755v? thanks!
 
Can someone breakdown the difference between the (2) input sensitivity settings on the Crown? .755 vs. 1.4v ? Why/when use one setting vs. the other? I've confused myself over this detail. I thought 1.4v was for using RCAs in a home audio application? unclear why you would choose .755v? thanks!
It's in the user manual:
The INPUT SENSITIVITY feature enables the playback from sources with inherently low output levels to drive the amplifier to full power by selecting ".775 - HIGH." It is recommended that this remain set at the default NORMAL setting for all other audio sources to provide optimal system performance. The HIGH setting is often used with source devices that use RCA connections.
 
It's in the user manual:
The INPUT SENSITIVITY feature enables the playback from sources with inherently low output levels to drive the amplifier to full power by selecting ".775 - HIGH." It is recommended that this remain set at the default NORMAL setting for all other audio sources to provide optimal system performance. The HIGH setting is often used with source devices that use RCA connections.
You are much more gracious than myself: I would have simply answered if that is a feature that you have no use for, then don't use it.
 
I have my xls 1502 at home and it works great (so far no hiss issues, it works just fine)
How should I set the gain regulators at both sides of the screen? I have them at 25% of their total capacity, is that ok_
 
I have my xls 1502 at home and it works great (so far no hiss issues, it works just fine)
How should I set the gain regulators at both sides of the screen? I have them at 25% of their total capacity, is that ok_
 
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