- Mar 23, 2016
Kal, by "not subtle," I'm interpreting that to mean that there are "very noticeable and significant" improvements in the Studio2's compared to the 802D and 802D3? Can I ask then, in your opinion, for folks who are satisfied with the neutrality and tonal balance of the 802D, would they perhaps find the Studio2's treble to be rolled off or dull?
I am tending to go towards Salon2 (L/R), Voice2 (Center) and Studio2 (sides) for my HT setup. Where do you find these deals. I see Salon2 are 10.5k, studio2 are 6.5k and voice2 are 3.5k on an average.For reasonable listening levels, mono ABH2 would be sufficient. I would hesitate using a single one, with an 86dB sensitivity rating, you're looking at 256W of power needed for 110dB SPL. Which is high, but there is some musical content with peaks that loud. What I'm more concerned about is the current draw the speaker will be needing, since there is quite a sophisticated crossover inside the Salon2 that no doubt is a power hug from 30hz-1khz which is actually a huge portion of the energy content in a lot of music.
If you plan on using subwoofers and having the subs take over below 80hz and running the Salon2's only above 80hz, you could get away with a single Benchmark amp for sure.
Have you considered the JBL Synthesis 4367? I've seen several pairs for sale in the past 6 months for $8,000USD brand new in box. Which is probably $3-5K less then what a dealer would sell a Salon2 for. I'm unsure how much dealers sell discounted/open box Salon2's for, but it's probably a lot more than $8K. They're my speaker and I wouldn't get rid of them for anything. I think they sound better than even B&W 800D3, though, the only setup I heard the 800 D3 at was in a crowded dealer room. I have not, however, heard the Salon2.
Good luck with your audio purchases. I was in your situation a year and a half ago. If I could do it all over, I wouldn't have changed anything I did.
The dealer I bought my Studio2s & Voice2 from indicated to me that they were discontinued. I believe Kal and others have confirmed this to be true from others sources. The prices you're quoting are significantly lower than anything I'd seen for new Revel speakers from this series. If you can find them at that price and they're not damaged then I think you found the pot-of-gold at rainbow's end.I am tending to go towards Salon2 (L/R), Voice2 (Center) and Studio2 (sides) for my HT setup. Where do you find these deals. I see Salon2 are 10.5k, studio2 are 6.5k and voice2 are 3.5k on an average.
AFAIK, it has not been measured independently, but the JLAudio CR1 is a likely candidate. It was, subjectively, transparent when used with my AHB2s and Studio2s. For various reasons, I prefer digital crossover/EQ, anyway.
Yes, definitely multichannel but the sub situation has changed. What I did use (happily) is described here: https://www.stereophile.com/content/jl-audio-fathom-f110v2-powered-subwoofer All that stuff is gone.Would you comment on your method of digital crossover/EQ that you’re using with the Studio2s + AHB2s? Seems like I saw you’d posted somewhere else you do this for a multi-channel set up also?
Does HEDD have anything in this price range?You might also look at the new generation of active speakers, Kii THREE and Dutch&Dutch 8Cs, full range, cardioid, perfect step,group, phase, constant directivity etc etc.
Recently p/exd’ a pair of Salon 2s for some Dutch&Dutch 8Cs.
BTW I got a chance to audition 802d2 and Rebel Salon 2 in the same room, same settings. Hands down Revel Salon2 was better than 802d. I liked the sound stage and isolation. One noticeable difference was the muddy bass in 802d2. Again every ear is different, the choice was clear and easy for me. I went to purchase a 802d2 and came back with Revel Salon2
I personally auditioned 802d3 and Salon2 with a local dealer. I loved the BW's when I first heard that. When the Salon2 was demo'd next it just blew the 802d3 out of the water. Salon2 is very accurate , the 3d sound stange is no comparison to what 802d3 could do. It was an easy decision to go with Salon2 and I am loving it!
I did audition 802d2, d3, salon2 and studio2 before deciding on salon2.Interesting. A few months ago you reported that you compared the Salon2 directly with the 802D2. Now you're saying the comparison was with the 802d3. Each time you used hyperbolic terms to describe how the Salon2 completely destroyed the 802D2 or was it the 802D3? I also couldn't help but notice you are a new member with 3 posts.
I love my 4367'sIt's working out amazingly! I don't really feel the need to wax poetic on my new gear aquisitions and why they are the hottest new thing anymore (I used to). but since you asked... I've found massive improvement in bass response. I do get a stronger bottom end, my roommate asked me to turn the volume down the day I had everything hooked up, and that was the first time that ever happened. and as far as midrange and top end, I probably need more time to figure that difference in what I'm hearing. of course seeing the blue meters dance to the music is totally worth the price of admission. I posted some pictures in the other McIntosh thread if you didn't see. But here's a new one.
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Ps. I wish I had salon2's! I feel like the odd person out, nobody has 4367's but everyone's got Salon2's!!!