Revel F228Be Review (Speaker)

[Lsc]

If you had 2 pair of speakers in your room side by side in order to evaluate them you could distinguish a difference between them but you wouldn't have the slightest idea which pair were playing at the time.

I had both the F208 and F228Be at the same time for a couple of weeks. The F228Be was better speaker across the spectrum but this doesn’t mean that the F208 was a bad speaker, it sounded very good over the 7 years that I owned it and still sounds very good.

The Be speakers are a step up but that also depends on who you ask. You really have to be into this stuff to justify the differences but they are there.

 

[Senior NEET Engineer]

I do wonder. Much of the improvement according to Revel is due to better motor structure on the drivers. I don't doubt it much, but none of that relates to the directivity guidelines from Harman's research. I'd really like to know what it does relate too. For comparison I do believe the F208 in Amir's testing gets better results than any of the BE models.

So is it distortion, is it less distortion in the low end, what is it? The 328Be has about the same distortion until below 200 hz. The 228Be has a bit more (though still low) distortion until below 200 hz. Don't have the data for 226 Be of course. So I would really like to know what is the parameters in the drivers that make the Be's sound better than the F208.

I think they altered the wave guide a bit. The F226Be measures a lot better than F206.

 

[archerious]

I think they altered the wave guide a bit. The F226Be measures a lot better than F206.

How does the M105 compare to F226Be? I am debating on upgrading to F208 or F226Be from M105.

 

[muad]

I don't have the F226Be, But I do have the M105 and the F328Be. The difference between the M105/F328Be is night and day. The F328Be makes the M105 sound like a toy.

Of course, you need at least a 12x13' room or larger for the F328Be. If you have the space the F328Be sounds awesome. Where the M105 suffers most is in the low bass area. This is where the F328Be excels. The F328Be always sounds totally effortless while the M105 struggles by comparison.

If you put the M105 next to the F226Be you will notice the 226 is in a completely different league. More refined and capable on every front. Expect a big difference between these two models. The ASR posted score for the M105 lead me to believe it might be something special. But in my listening tests the M105 sounds weak and puny compared to the F328Be. It's a laughable comparison.

Does any of this change with a subwoofer?

 

[Molon_Labe]

Is anyone powering their 228s with a Benchmark AHB2? I am hoping one will be sufficent vs having to buy two and use them as monoblocks. I don't listen loud as this is a 2.1 audio system in my living room.

 

[BrokenEnglishGuy]

I have a question
Why nobody is complaining about this?, looks shockley bad.

 

[ENG]

Is anyone powering their 228s with a Benchmark AHB2? I am hoping one will be sufficent vs having to buy two and use them as monoblocks. I don't listen loud as this is a 2.1 audio system in my living room.

I have Revel F228Be, but not AHB2. I am driving them with NAD C298 (185w/8 ohm) which is more than enough. The Revels are rather sensitive.

 

[Molon_Labe]

@amper42 - If the Benmark isn't enough I may sell it and look at getting the Buckeye I wish I would have know about that if they are the same quality as the Benchmark

 

[Absolute]

I have a question
Why nobody is complaining about this?, looks shockley bad.

Unless you see those resonances in a spinorama, it's not an issue.
Dr. Toole said in a thread here that he tried to tell Atkinson that an accelerometer placed on a cabinet had very little correlation to audible issues, especially compared to spinorama, and should therefore not be used as an indicator for cabinet quality.

But less is probably a good thing anyhow.

 

[BrokenEnglishGuy]

Unless you see those resonances in a spinorama, it's not an issue.
Dr. Toole said in a thread here that he tried to tell Atkinson that an accelerometer placed on a cabinet had very little correlation to audible issues, especially compared to spinorama, and should therefore not be used as an indicator for cabinet quality.

But less is probably a good thing anyhow.

Yeah, in fact that Revel doesn't have any distortion problem neither a peak in the spinorama






That being said, in other speakers where i found a distortion peak sometimes correlate more.. for example, the reviewer have wrote this

'' high-Q resonances in the cones are visible at 3-6kHz '' and then the distortion casually have a rise right there...

 

[MacCali]

How does the M105 compare to F226Be? I am debating on upgrading to F208 or F226Be from M105.

There’s a measurement and score on the F series that’s very good almost outstanding I believe.

Revel F208 Tower Speaker Review

This is a review and detailed measurements of the Revel F208 speaker. It was kindly purchased by a member and drop shipped to me for measurements. Revel F208 costs $2,500 each or US $5,000 for a pair. Note: our company, Madrona Digital is a dealer for Revel speakers. Feel free to read as...

audiosciencereview.com

 

[Absolute]

Yeah, in fact that Revel doesn't have any distortion problem neither a peak in the spinorama






That being said, in other speakers where i found a distortion peak sometimes correlate more.. for example, the reviewer have wrote this

'' high-Q resonances in the cones are visible at 3-6kHz '' and then the distortion casually have a rise right there...

It seems like there's corresponding anomalies in the spin, but likely too little to have any impact on listening tests. Might show up with pink noise or test tones.

 

[ahofer]

Picking up a pair of these used. Should be an interesting comparison to my Harbeths. Unfortunately, will be in a different house, and I”m not sure I’m up for the transportation for direct comparison.

 

[MacCali]

Picking up a pair of these used. Should be an interesting comparison to my Harbeths. Unfortunately, will be in a different house, and I”m not sure I’m up for the transportation for direct comparison.

Think it shouldn’t matter right? Isn’t this the speaker which pairs well with any room.

I know the harbeth will sound different but the revel should be a constant or consistent. I’m sure someone will chime in

 

[ahofer]

Isn’t this the speaker which pairs well with any room.

Well…here’s the room. Should challenge that concept pretty strenuously.

Thread 'Room challenge and DSP'
https://audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/room-challenge-and-dsp.9178/

 

[MacCali]

Well…here’s the room. Should challenge that concept pretty strenuously.

Thread 'Room challenge and DSP'
https://audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/room-challenge-and-dsp.9178/

I mean no matter what, didn’t take a close look. As long as you make everything equal distance you can probably make it work. I know onrush side has no wall, so you need to put acoustic treatment for the wall with reflection.

It won’t fix everything but help a bit. All that matters is making the reflections similar.

I will take a closer look, but I am far from an audio expert. Just chiming in with what I understand and that may be useless or there’s no way to set it the way I’m saying

 

[Laserjock]

Well…here’s the room. Should challenge that concept pretty strenuously.

Thread 'Room challenge and DSP'
https://audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/room-challenge-and-dsp.9178/

What speakers are you replacing? The JBL or did I miss an updated post in between?

 

[ahofer]

What speakers are you replacing? The JBL or did I miss an updated post in between?

Yes, the JBL Studio L830s

 

[ahofer]

I have to say, as I live with both my Harbeth SHL5+(AE) and these Revels, it’s the orchestral music and seating flexibility that reveal the superiority of the Revels. Listening to the Rachmaninov 2nd now at volume, well off center, and it’s great.

It’s a mistake to audition speakers with sparsely orchestrated music, or at least with only that. Throw an orchestra or some electronic music at it.

 

[MacCali]

I have to say, as I live with both my Harbeth SHL5+(AE) and these Revels, it’s the orchestral music and seating flexibility that reveal the superiority of the Revels. Listening to the Rachmaninov 2nd now at volume, well off center, and it’s great.

It’s a mistake to audition speakers with sparsely orchestrated music, or at least with only that. Throw an orchestra or some electronic music at it.

Think it’s the same with most well behaved speakers. If my memory serves me correct that’s the one Erin tested