I ordered a pair of F226Be gloss black in February and they didn't show up until late October. The projected delivery date shifted numerous times during that period.
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Revel F228Be Review (Speaker)
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I ordered a pair of F226Be gloss black in February and they didn't show up until late October. The projected delivery date shifted numerous times during that period.
Funny thing is, I saw the F226 came in around the time you got yours and I was thinking to myself dammit, maybe I should of stuck with the F226!
But I contacted my dealer today, he told me the target date is not March, it was originally estimated December. But my gut feels that it may get push back even more.
Anyways, here I am complaining about a first world problem. I should shut up.
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Boy, do I wish I could sell this speaker. I have it packed in its giant package, taking up so much room.
BTW, the story behind this speaker is that a member bought a pair of them from our company. One was to come to me for testing and the other to a forwarding location in Florida as he is Australia. Well, I got my unit and the other went to his forwarding company but by then, he changed his mind and didn't want them anymore.
Harman hit us with a $2,000 restocking fee for the unit that went to the forwarding company and I am stuck with the other one. So we are out thousands of dollars on this deal.Wait, so you have just ONE F228, not a pair but just ONE? That would be very hard for you to sell!Boy, do I wish I could sell this speaker. I have it packed in its giant package, taking up so much room.
BTW, the story behind this speaker is that a member bought a pair of them from our company. One was to come to me for testing and the other to a forwarding location in Florida as he is Australia. Well, I got my unit and the other went to his forwarding company but by then, he changed his mind and didn't want them anymore.
Boy, do I wish I could sell this speaker. I have it packed in its giant package, taking up so much room.
BTW, the story behind this speaker is that a member bought a pair of them from our company. One was to come to me for testing and the other to a forwarding location in Florida as he is Australia. Well, I got my unit and the other went to his forwarding company but by then, he changed his mind and didn't want them anymore.
I’ll give you $5 plus shipping for it
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No, I can get more from Harman direct. They sell them individually.
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You mean you can't even do $50? I can't even buy a chocolate bar for $5!I’ll give you $5 plus shipping for it
Ok you have a deal for $50 plus shipping.
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Wonderful. Shipping will be $5,000 on top of that.Ok you have a deal for $50 plus shipping.
I’ll hire my own shipping company…might even just drive up there myself to get it. Would cost less than $5000
On that note. A local friend says he uses uship quite often to ship large items. He has bought and shipped a lot of towers for cheap. He did say problem is timeline. It could take a couple weeks plus to get someone to pick it up.
Well, I got my unit and the other went to his forwarding company but by then, he changed his mind and didn't want them anymore.
We need the dislike reaction just for this post.
I was tempted to say I will pay $500 and buy myself a ticket to fly them to Hong Kong, but... looking at what I have to throw away just to put them in the tiny apartment... I gave up
...there goes that conspiracy theory of your close relationship with Harman. Wow-that's quite a financial hit.Boy, do I wish I could sell this speaker. I have it packed in its giant package, taking up so much room.
BTW, the story behind this speaker is that a member bought a pair of them from our company. One was to come to me for testing and the other to a forwarding location in Florida as he is Australia. Well, I got my unit and the other went to his forwarding company but by then, he changed his mind and didn't want them anymore.
That’s interesting. I currently have a F36/F35/C25 setup with a couple of Rythmik subs. My original upgrade path was a F208/F206/C208 set up. However, wondering if I financially can pull it off to swap out the F208’s for 226 Be’s.
The reason it may not be the right choice is the size of my room. It’s the main living room in an open floor plan. About 15’ wide and 24’ to the back wall wearing the dining table is and 9’ ceiling. It’s also open to the kitchen area. So, even if I set the crossover at 80 Hz with either pair, I’m guessing the trade off decision is better mid bass with the F208 vs better mid and top end with the 226 Be. Is this a fair assessment?
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I think it is a fair assessment, but I don't have any guidance on which way to go with it. All I can add is I have F208s in a 19 ft wide by 34 ft long room. The F208's are capable of handling it on their own for two channel music. For surround I send the low end to a pair of Rhythmik subs. I've not experimented much with subs and F208s on two channel music, but it is obvious if nothing else I can get a smoother response in room below 100 hz.
I just read this article, certainly makes me think I should save up for the 226 Be’s.
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If you had 2 pair of speakers in your room side by side in order to evaluate them you could distinguish a difference between them but you wouldn't have the slightest idea which pair were playing at the time.
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I do wonder. Much of the improvement according to Revel is due to better motor structure on the drivers. I don't doubt it much, but none of that relates to the directivity guidelines from Harman's research. I'd really like to know what it does relate too. For comparison I do believe the F208 in Amir's testing gets better results than any of the BE models.
So is it distortion, is it less distortion in the low end, what is it? The 328Be has about the same distortion until below 200 hz. The 228Be has a bit more (though still low) distortion until below 200 hz. Don't have the data for 226 Be of course. So I would really like to know what is the parameters in the drivers that make the Be's sound better than the F208.
The Be product info:
PerformaBE
The PerformaBe Series was born out of the desire to create a loudspeaker that redefined performance expectations. Using the award-winning Performa3 F208 and M106 as the starting point, Revel's development team re-engineered virtually every component in order to extract the finest details, the highest levels of performance, and the most emotion possible. With an all-new Beryllium tweeter as the basis of the Performa Be Series, the result is unparalleled detail and accuracy along with a sense of air, spaciousness, and a cohesive soundstage that will certainly define these models as world standards in performance. In short, the Revel Performa Be Series are serious loudspeakers for people who are serious about impeccable sound.The Beauty of Beryllium
Beryllium - Element 4 on the Periodic Table - is a rare earth metal that is renowned for its remarkable physical properties - properties that just so happen to make it the ideal material for a high-frequency transducer. It's lightweight, incredibly stiff, inherently well damped - basically everything you need for the ideal tweeter diaphragm in a loudspeaker. Compared to other metals used in tweeter diaphragms like aluminum and titanium, beryllium offers 4.5 times the stiffness and 3 times more damping, and does so at only half of the weight. Diamond vapor deposit diaphragms offer similar characteristics for stiffness and damping, but they do so with a weight penalty that limits performance in comparison to beryllium.PerformaBe low frequency and midrange transducers feature newly developed Deep Ceramic Composite (DCC) cone technology. DCC creates a much stiffer and better damped cone than untreated aluminum, reducing cone resonance and promoting ideal pistonic motion. The result is unparalleled midrange purity and detail retrieval.
Revel PerformaBe's precision high order crossover networks feature carefully selected components to dramatically reduce distortion and dynamic compression for pristine sound over a wide dynamic range. These networks optimize the speakers' timbre accuracy, enhancing the listener's enjoyment anywhere in the room - even off axis!
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